Mr. President, Don’t Forget The Nakba

[politicman]

460. This is getting tiresome...

1) I have provided the link again in the next post where Amnesty International Human Rights Organisation contends that 'Israel demolishes Palestinian homes for punishment AND to seize land for settlement expansion'.
Is this still not enough evidence for you?

2)My point was that the Palestinians can be struck down by Israeli helicopters at any time and at any place, the fact that they have no idea if the helicopter is there to assassinate anyone or if its there to gather intelligence or if its there to bomb a police station or building or house or just making a fly over creates a situation where they cannot be on guard 24 hours a day, so they effectively don't hear or see an attack before it is launched.
I also mentioned that a helicopter that can shoot a missile from 8km away in a densely populated territory that is crammed with buildings and cars and all sorts of noises from a million plus people can easily be drowned out by all that noise.
But you don't mention that point in your counter argument do you?

3)The PA was always in charge of Palestinian territories, they knew Hamas existed for a long time just like they knew that Islamic Jihad existed, and they were ok with them as long as these groups helped in the struggle for liberation. Hamas and other groups focused their efforts on liberating Palestine and the PA was happy with this arrangement.

The only reason that the PA arrested some members of Hamas was to placate Israeli and American demands, but these Hamas members were eventually released. Hamas knew the PA was trying to placate Israeli and American demands and that their men would be released again when the spotlight was off, and they accepted this situation.

As the corruption in the PA grew and the PA couldn't hold Israel accountable for all its breaches of the agreement even though it was making a show of arresting Hamas members to placate Israeli demands, Hamas ran for and won elections in Gaza. And I have explained how the situation eventuated from there.

4) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza%E2%80%93Egypt_border
This link describes the Rafah border that connects Gaza with Egypt. Read it all carefully, you will see that Israel controlled it prior to 2005 and then handed over authority to the Egyptians in an agreement based on the principles of the 1979 peace treaty. Egypt has tightly controlled that border so as not to trigger another Israeli assault or incursion, etc.
Israel physically imprisons Gaza in nearly all directions, and also puts pressure on Egypt to exercise strict control of the rafah crossing through an agreement before it handed over the crossing.


5)So you are a hypocrite then. You don't have a problem with letting countries elect bad people (even your own), you just have a problem if the Palestinians elect leaders that are bad in your eyes (and not everyones else).
Sharon was implicated in Sabra and Shatila, Bush invaded and destroyed Iraq, yet you want to draw the line at Hamas and the PA?
I am not the one that said that I wanted Israeli politicians like Sharon removed, I just pointed him out because you can tolerate him in a position of power in Israel while you insist on Palestine removing their leaders. The hypocrisy in you is overwhelming.
Under your warped logic you have no problem with established democracies ehaving leaders who are considered murderers or complicit in massacres (Sharon was implicated by your own country), you just have a problem with newly formed countries having leaders like this. And to dissuade them from having them, you are prepared to imprison them and kill the same people you claim you don't want to be killed by dictators. Some weird logic you have there.