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In reply to the discussion: Why we fight [View all]azurnoir
(45,850 posts)10. I felt this passage particulary rich
They stumble across a concentration camp. This scene, the discovery of such an evil place, is the most vivid and discomforting. The people they find are starving, emaciated and close to death. They question the prisoners about who is being held here. One US soldier translates the answers. Criminals? he asks. No, comes the reply, musicians, artists, teachers: Jews. The evil of the Nazi project that they have been fighting against for so many years is no longer abstract: the soldiers realize why they fight.
so we are to think Nazi's when Arabs are mentioned? and then this-
They save lives, she told me, asking me to consider the case of a pregnant Palestinian woman who was brought to a checkpoint in an ambulance which, once inspected, was found to be carrying concealed explosive devices. Take a second, she asked me, to understand what kind of dilemma an 18- year old soldier is presented with when on the one hand she sees a heavily pregnant woman, apparently desperate to go to hospital, but at the same time, fears it is a hoax that will cost others lives.
Knowing she faces an enemy that would use a pregnant woman about to deliver as a decoy and the clear and present danger that Israeli citizens face from this threat; Lital was clear why she fights.
it happened but now because it happened it is moral to hold pregnant women Palestinian women at checkpoints even when it endangers the lives of both her and the baby
IDF's moral philosophy seems based on if one did they are all guilty for ever
and note that the clip stops short of whether Yair gunned down the Lebanese children but skips to another passage where ansoldier saves the life of a single Palestinian boy leaving us to draw our own conclusions
so we are to think Nazi's when Arabs are mentioned? and then this-
They save lives, she told me, asking me to consider the case of a pregnant Palestinian woman who was brought to a checkpoint in an ambulance which, once inspected, was found to be carrying concealed explosive devices. Take a second, she asked me, to understand what kind of dilemma an 18- year old soldier is presented with when on the one hand she sees a heavily pregnant woman, apparently desperate to go to hospital, but at the same time, fears it is a hoax that will cost others lives.
Knowing she faces an enemy that would use a pregnant woman about to deliver as a decoy and the clear and present danger that Israeli citizens face from this threat; Lital was clear why she fights.
it happened but now because it happened it is moral to hold pregnant women Palestinian women at checkpoints even when it endangers the lives of both her and the baby
IDF's moral philosophy seems based on if one did they are all guilty for ever
and note that the clip stops short of whether Yair gunned down the Lebanese children but skips to another passage where ansoldier saves the life of a single Palestinian boy leaving us to draw our own conclusions
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"Israeli soldiers" . . . "Hezbollah terrorists." Propaganda framing - morally depraved, indeed.
leveymg
Feb 2012
#2
I don't think they're lying, or should shut up. I commented that this is propaganda
leveymg
Feb 2012
#4
If the actual stories on both sides were told, the message would be more powerful, which is why
leveymg
Feb 2012
#8
It depends upon the audience - I assume the audience is knowledgable and reasonable
leveymg
Feb 2012
#45
You do know, don't you, that there are plenty of shocking stories from your side of the conflict
Crunchy Frog
Feb 2012
#16
so every Palestinian or is it Arab in general is guilty of what one individual Palestinian or
azurnoir
Feb 2012
#12
lol if I remember correctly what I said about about the Swedish tabloid Afterbladet article was
azurnoir
Feb 2012
#20
ah I sense someone has spent some time digging aroiund DU2 for some sort of what entrapment?
azurnoir
Feb 2012
#22
ok so every Palestinian is guilty of what any one Palestinian does? you've confirmed that thank you
azurnoir
Feb 2012
#19
No one said that in the article. Your contemptuous reaction to this article is a reminder...
shira
Feb 2012
#34