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Israel/Palestine

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Crunchy Frog

(28,208 posts)
43. By GOI, are you referring to the government of Israel?
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 10:37 PM
Feb 2012

In any event, I would say that your mind reading skills are not all that sharp and that is not an accurate description of my beliefs. It sounds like you're saying that you don't think I'm an anti-semite, but I'm not sure, as I often have some difficulty deciphering your prose.

There is a good reason that I had you on ignore on the old DU. You are not a person that I wish to engage with. I don't believe that the two of us have much of anything in common in our pictures of the world, and frankly, I percieve your posting style as hostile and combative, and with a great tendency to mischaracterize things that others say who disagree with you. I've watched other posters engage in "discussion" with you, and it looked to me like they were banging their heads against a brick wall.

I don't have you on ignore now simply because the ignore system on DU3 is different, and I would not be able to see the replies to your posts either, even if they're by people whose posting I respect.

However, I do wish to engage with you as little as possible, and for that reason, do not wish to get into a deep discussion of what my beliefs actually are and how they differ from your characterization of them. Based on what I've seen of your posting history, trying to share my actual beliefs with you and engage you in serious discussion would be an act of futility on my part, and would simply open me up to more mischaracterizations, mind reading attempts, and things that appear to me to be subtle accusations of anti-semitism. I'm just not up for it.

Can we just leave it as "no, I'm not calling you an anti-semite" or "yes I am calling you an anti-semite" from you, and a "no, that is not an accurate characterization of my views which are too complex and nuanced for me to go into in detail with you" from me?

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Why we fight [View all] DUIC Feb 2012 OP
Tyranny ,is only " moral depravity " orpupilofnature57 Feb 2012 #1
"Israeli soldiers" . . . "Hezbollah terrorists." Propaganda framing - morally depraved, indeed. leveymg Feb 2012 #2
So you think they're lying? Or that they should just shut up? n/t shira Feb 2012 #3
I don't think they're lying, or should shut up. I commented that this is propaganda leveymg Feb 2012 #4
but the actual stories are true.... pelsar Feb 2012 #5
Is there a difference? orpupilofnature57 Feb 2012 #6
it depends on ones morality... pelsar Feb 2012 #9
I'm appaled at people using children for effect orpupilofnature57 Feb 2012 #13
If the actual stories on both sides were told, the message would be more powerful, which is why leveymg Feb 2012 #8
actually i agree with you...how information is used selectively pelsar Feb 2012 #44
It depends upon the audience - I assume the audience is knowledgable and reasonable leveymg Feb 2012 #45
You do know, don't you, that there are plenty of shocking stories from your side of the conflict Crunchy Frog Feb 2012 #16
I agree ,Highly biased orpupilofnature57 Feb 2012 #7
I felt this passage particulary rich azurnoir Feb 2012 #10
you asked.... pelsar Feb 2012 #11
so every Palestinian or is it Arab in general is guilty of what one individual Palestinian or azurnoir Feb 2012 #12
of course its a foolish question.... pelsar Feb 2012 #14
Did you just accuse azurnoir of posting a blood libel Crunchy Frog Feb 2012 #17
its just a repeat of what azurnoir has claimed to be true in the past... pelsar Feb 2012 #18
lol if I remember correctly what I said about about the Swedish tabloid Afterbladet article was azurnoir Feb 2012 #20
so if i now understand... pelsar Feb 2012 #21
ah I sense someone has spent some time digging aroiund DU2 for some sort of what entrapment? azurnoir Feb 2012 #22
no digging just remembering... pelsar Feb 2012 #24
are yoiu speaking about Dr Yehuda Hiss? azurnoir Feb 2012 #26
i do owe you an apology.... pelsar Feb 2012 #25
Thank you azurnoir Feb 2012 #27
GOOD! pelsar Feb 2012 #29
congrats....a little soul searching on my part.... pelsar Feb 2012 #31
ok so every Palestinian is guilty of what any one Palestinian does? you've confirmed that thank you azurnoir Feb 2012 #19
do israeli soldiers suffer PTSD? pelsar Feb 2012 #23
well IDF is sometimes presented as 'super human' azurnoir Feb 2012 #28
as far as i know..... pelsar Feb 2012 #30
So Saudi Arabians are the same? orpupilofnature57 Feb 2012 #32
same as what? pelsar Feb 2012 #33
And a hell of a long way from " All Arabs " orpupilofnature57 Feb 2012 #35
He fights to save the Middle Eastern Arabs from their depravity. Crunchy Frog Feb 2012 #15
No one said that in the article. Your contemptuous reaction to this article is a reminder... shira Feb 2012 #34
Bias ,like your comments ,cause Contempt. orpupilofnature57 Feb 2012 #36
Such contempt is not dependent on people's comments. Does your own bias cause contempt.... shira Feb 2012 #37
Bias - Objectivity--- --- Moral Depravity - Self Defense orpupilofnature57 Feb 2012 #38
Oh, why don't you just come straight out and say Crunchy Frog Feb 2012 #39
You don't believe Israelis are under any serious threat, do you? shira Feb 2012 #40
I can't even figure out what you're trying to say in that post. Crunchy Frog Feb 2012 #41
I'm asking you those questions b/c I'm thinking that if you don't believe... shira Feb 2012 #42
By GOI, are you referring to the government of Israel? Crunchy Frog Feb 2012 #43
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