Israel/Palestine

holdencaufield

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22. Respectfully Disagree

Thu Dec 15, 2011, 10:07 PM

Dec 2011

I believe that a two-state solution is inevitable. What is delaying a two-state solution is the misguided belief that a one-state solution (i.e. the elimination of Israel as a Jewish State) is achievable.

When both sides agree to the idea that two viable states, at peace with each other, will resolve the dispute, the detail of borders will be resolved.

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Ok, DU3 guideline commentary [View all] Lithos Dec 2011 OP

Thank you for the imput libodem Dec 2011 #1

Some thoughts oberliner Dec 2011 #2

Those are great questions Lithos Dec 2011 #5

I was on a jury tonight about a thread here Ruby the Liberal Dec 2011 #6

why would those results "surprise" you? azurnoir Dec 2011 #7

Never saw it. Ruby the Liberal Dec 2011 #8

actually it was GD not LBN which was why the question mark n/t azurnoir Dec 2011 #9

Okay, I'm confused. I thought alerts on OPs went to the group hosts, not a jury... Violet_Crumble Dec 2011 #15

Alerts don't go to hosts - they go to a randomly selected jury oberliner Dec 2011 #16

The post that Ruby talks about is an OP, not a post in a thread... Violet_Crumble Dec 2011 #18

maybe we can PM Lithos Mosby Dec 2011 #27

Hosts can't hide posts though. Ruby the Liberal Dec 2011 #29

Locking posts that bypass the IP rules should be sufficient IMO. nt Mosby Dec 2011 #31

But are we agreed on what those rules are? oberliner Dec 2011 #32

im suggesting a process Mosby Dec 2011 #33

But what would be the point of that as a process? Violet_Crumble Dec 2011 #38

Hosts can lock OPs and other stuff Mosby Dec 2011 #43

Yeah, I'm a host so I know how it works... Violet_Crumble Dec 2011 #46

I didn't know that about OP alerts. Mosby Dec 2011 #48

You can check it out by hitting the alert button on any OP... Violet_Crumble Dec 2011 #59

I find it stunning, yet awesome. Ruby the Liberal Dec 2011 #64

Keep in mind that this is only for the opening post Ruby the Liberal Dec 2011 #34

Thank you - I know this took alot of time, thought and work. Ruby the Liberal Dec 2011 #3

I share some of Oberliner's concerns. bemildred Dec 2011 #4

I have some comments. Scurrilous Dec 2011 #10

"Nuke Arutz Sheva". How about nuking PRESS-TV and MAAN too? shira Dec 2011 #47

What Palestinian source do you think is OK? oberliner Dec 2011 #49

None. They're all state controlled either by Hamas or the PA. shira Dec 2011 #52

Not certain what you mean by your list of "recurring themes". Crunchy Frog Dec 2011 #11

Concur that single state solution should be inbounds ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2011 #14

I agree LeftishBrit Dec 2011 #25

I am glad they didn't hard code against sources Ruby the Liberal Dec 2011 #12

Thank you for your efforts however I would agree with Bemildred and oberliner n/t azurnoir Dec 2011 #13

Oberliner and Scurrilous have pretty much covered it for me... Violet_Crumble Dec 2011 #17

Wanted to add a Thank You oberliner Dec 2011 #19

Where do you find the jury rulings? n/t Dick Dastardly Dec 2011 #28

They are sent after the ruling to the jury members, Ruby the Liberal Dec 2011 #30

Don't you rather refute your own point about single-staters? Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2011 #20

Respectfully Disagree holdencaufield Dec 2011 #22

I don't see that inevitability. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2011 #23

Regarding DU3. I had hoped this would be an opportunity for the I/P group Jefferson23 Dec 2011 #21

I agree with everything in your post. Crunchy Frog Dec 2011 #35

So make it more. Ruby the Liberal Dec 2011 #36

Putting aside sources for now Mosby Dec 2011 #24

Firstly huge thanks for this! LeftishBrit Dec 2011 #26

I am glad this is being revised. Behind the Aegis Dec 2011 #37

If I might: bemildred Dec 2011 #42

I agree with a lot of this LeftishBrit Dec 2011 #51

A question about sources... Violet_Crumble Dec 2011 #39

I will answer this later tonight Lithos Dec 2011 #40

Thanks... Violet_Crumble Dec 2011 #44

FWIW, I am OK with banning Ynet for OPs, it's not like it's all that useful. bemildred Dec 2011 #41

I'm happy to throw in Zmag just to show how serious I am! Violet_Crumble Dec 2011 #45

LOL. bemildred Dec 2011 #50

! Ruby the Liberal Dec 2011 #53

Sources Lithos Dec 2011 #54

OT - Bonus points for the early 1980s porn reference. Ruby the Liberal Dec 2011 #55

That was pretty funny. Behind the Aegis Dec 2011 #58

I can't speak for the others, but I am non-plussed. Behind the Aegis Dec 2011 #56

Short answer Lithos Dec 2011 #61

Yes, I think that "Is it news?" is the right question. bemildred Dec 2011 #62

That helps. Thanks. Behind the Aegis Dec 2011 #65

What about International Crisis Group? Violet_Crumble Dec 2011 #66

On topic - Palestinian News Sources Ruby the Liberal Dec 2011 #57

Thanks for the explanation... Violet_Crumble Dec 2011 #60

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Dec 2011 #63

Giving this a kick to add something about OPs unrelated to the I/P conflict... Violet_Crumble Jan 2012 #67

Guess you never read the article huh? King_David Jan 2012 #68

I read the article and it wasn't about Israel, nor is it about not liking an article... Violet_Crumble Jan 2012 #70

Former staffer says Ron Paul is Anti-Israel and uncomfortable around Gays King_David Jan 2012 #71

That's not the OP you posted in this group... Violet_Crumble Jan 2012 #72

Very thankful that Lithos and UGGR are the hosts of this group. nt King_David Jan 2012 #73

Good. Then I suggest you allow people to give them suggestions on future guidelines... Violet_Crumble Jan 2012 #74

Ron Paul , is also not an anti-Semite, even though he is �most certainly� not a fan of Israel King_David Jan 2012 #69

Problem is, where do we draw the line? LeftishBrit Jan 2012 #75

I think that'd be something for the hosts to decide.... Violet_Crumble Jan 2012 #77

Or like the post about Pam Geller? oberliner Jan 2012 #76

I don't really care about OPs about antisemitism or Islamophobia... Violet_Crumble Jan 2012 #78

The Ron Paul bathroom post does address his perceived anti-semitism oberliner Jan 2012 #79

Israel was a fleeting reference... Violet_Crumble Jan 2012 #80

OPs should have at least a fleeting reference to something Israeli or Palestinian oberliner Jan 2012 #81

There was nothing 'fleeting' about it King_David Jan 2012 #82

Of course it was fleeting. There were only two passing mentions of Israel in the entire article... Violet_Crumble Jan 2012 #83

You seem to think somehow erroneously that your a host in this group. King_David Jan 2012 #84

You are using the wrong "your" here oberliner Jan 2012 #85

That is true , thank you nt King_David Jan 2012 #86

Of course I don't. What a silly thing to say n/t Violet_Crumble Jan 2012 #87

Actually, under the DU3 Community Standards concept Ruby the Liberal Jan 2012 #88