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47. We'll see. Nt

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Israel�s message to the Palestinians: Submit, leave or die [View all] R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2014 OP

... Or stop shooting rockets at us. Nt hack89 Jul 2014 #1

No good Scootaloo Jul 2014 #2

Yea, where are they suppose to go? n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #3

It would give them a better case in the world's eyes hack89 Jul 2014 #4

No good comes from it, yet they are beyond hope. Lose all around. n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #5

Indeed, Netanyahu has given the Palestinians a clear path forward to destroying Israel without geek tragedy Jul 2014 #6

It sure looks like the Israelis are going to inadvertantly force that outcome. BillZBubb Jul 2014 #7

at some point some administration in the US is going to stop wasting our time and political geek tragedy Jul 2014 #11

Unfortunately, president Obama won't do it. BillZBubb Jul 2014 #14

How about suspending funds and weapons transfer until Netanyahu steps down awake Jul 2014 #31

Netanyahu reflects the consensus in Israel. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #43

I am not sure that he does, Netanyahu heads a coalition government awake Jul 2014 #50

Israel is not the leftwing socialist country that people remember it as. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #52

You maybe right but I am not yet ready to blame all of Israel for the actions of their Government awake Jul 2014 #54

we can hope, but as the old saying goes, hope in one hand . . . nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #55

That outcome is a legal impossiblity hack89 Jul 2014 #15

No, but the rest of the planet does. And, a finding that Israel had formally implemented apartheid geek tragedy Jul 2014 #17

The planet has ignored a real genocide in Africa for decades hack89 Jul 2014 #26

Ask P.W. Botha. nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #44

We'll see. Nt hack89 Jul 2014 #47

forever is a very long time, very few human institutions last that long nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #49

Zimmerman defense, meet the Chewbacca defense n/t Scootaloo Jul 2014 #46

There is a fatal flaw in your logic hack89 Jul 2014 #8

You're maybe confusing the ICJ with the ICC. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #9

Nope - I understand the difference clearly hack89 Jul 2014 #12

Who said anything about a binding decision? The point would be to shape international consensus. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #16

Yes, this possibility is misunderstood by Israeli supporters here. n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #18

It is painfully clear to anybody that takes a few minutes to mull it over. N/T R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2014 #56

Thing is, those are painful minutes. Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #57

The soothing waters of a river in Egytpt help them get through the R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2014 #67

ICJ only issues advisory rulings at the request of certain UN agencies hack89 Jul 2014 #21

How do you think they got the last one, in 2004? Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #22

Do you have a link? Nt hack89 Jul 2014 #24

I see now. The UN general assembly voted that the ICJ issue a ruling. Nt hack89 Jul 2014 #27

The advisory ruling actually goes into detail as to why they decided to hear the case. n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #30

Learn something every day. Thanks. Nt hack89 Jul 2014 #33

You're welcome, if you decide to read it I think you'll find it valuable. n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #36

So what are your views on Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #63

Part of the Greater Israel project, first step geek tragedy Jul 2014 #69

In what way? Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #74

Israel will never allow a Palestinian state. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #76

You seem pretty sure about that. Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #78

Besides Netanyahu declaring that Israel will never surrender geek tragedy Jul 2014 #81

Yes. Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #84

So, you admit Netanyahu has no intention of allowing geek tragedy Jul 2014 #86

That's clearly not what I said. Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #91

Refusal to consider withdrawing the IDF and plowing ahead geek tragedy Jul 2014 #93

I see. Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #95

Bibi's entire career has been dedicated to preventing geek tragedy Jul 2014 #97

Of course. Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #100

Whoomp, there it is . geek tragedy Jul 2014 #101

Doubtful. Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #103

This message was self-deleted by its author Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #78

Sorry, what? Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #64

Here: geek tragedy Jul 2014 #70

I'm sorry... Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #72

Because the Israelis, hilariously enough, claim geek tragedy Jul 2014 #73

Untrue Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #75

A panel appointed by Israel 's Prime Minister. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #77

That's quite an assumption. Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #82

Desperate spin. He said that ending the occupation geek tragedy Jul 2014 #85

Really? Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #88

There are none so blind as those geek tragedy Jul 2014 #90

Yup..... Israeli Jul 2014 #92

And no one realized it... Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #105

So... Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #94

It's the Big Lie--that one can favor a Palestinian state while refusing geek tragedy Jul 2014 #96

Yup Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #87

Watch . geek tragedy Jul 2014 #89

And? Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #98

Platitudes meant for a naive western audience. geek tragedy Jul 2014 #99

Your link Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #102

A matter of logic? Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #104

A very flawed approach. Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #65

Then Israel will become a pariah just like geek tragedy Jul 2014 #71

Oh, now it's a "senseless war"? Scootaloo Jul 2014 #10

It is justified hack89 Jul 2014 #13

Then it's not justified Scootaloo Jul 2014 #19

Self defense is a fundamental right of all countries hack89 Jul 2014 #23

The Zimmerman Defense no longer works, hack Scootaloo Jul 2014 #29

So what should Israel do? hack89 Jul 2014 #34

These are its only options? Scootaloo Jul 2014 #37

They can't give Hamas what they really want hack89 Jul 2014 #38

Don't dodge the question. Are those the only options available? Scootaloo Jul 2014 #39

Never mentioned mass murder hack89 Jul 2014 #40

You're not going to answer, are you? Scootaloo Jul 2014 #41

Not if you are going to twist my words hack89 Jul 2014 #42

I'm not twisting your words, i'm underlining my own Scootaloo Jul 2014 #45

You are assuming it won't do a thing hack89 Jul 2014 #48

I make such assumption based on historical reality Scootaloo Jul 2014 #51

Same can be said about Hamas hack89 Jul 2014 #62

instead of smuggling in sabbat hunter Jul 2014 #106

Now you have me confused..what is justified? I did not think that is what you were implying earlier. Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #20

Israel is justified in stopping Hamas rocket attacks with military force. Nt hack89 Jul 2014 #25

I think you're too smart to give such a blanket answer...I imagine you realize that the civilian Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #28

Over a thousand strikes and less than a hundred civilian deaths hack89 Jul 2014 #32

That would involve a great deal of blind faith. I do not believe knocking on roofs and phone calls Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #35

Here for those who have not seen it is what "roof knocking" looks like awake Jul 2014 #68

Nice God they have libodem Jul 2014 #53

You are mixing old and new testaments together. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2014 #58

I'm not even religious libodem Jul 2014 #59

There's no need to wrap 15 million people up in the Israeli flag Scootaloo Jul 2014 #60

This message was self-deleted by its author cerveza_gratis Jul 2014 #61

It is? Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #66

Yes Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #83