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shira

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52. It's wrong trying to "contextualize" hate crimes. Learn from this. n/t

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Sun Jul 13, 2014, 12:36 PM

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Moroccan Jewish Community�s Rabbi Badly Beaten In Anti-Semitic Attack on Friday [View all] King_David Jul 2014 OP

End the occupation. Terrible for the Rabbi, frightening blow back. n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #1

The occupation causes Jew Hatred in Morrocco and the world ? King_David Jul 2014 #2

Just a suggestion, READ your own OP before you post: Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #3

This Rabbi was a Military commander in Israel? King_David Jul 2014 #4

You're going to contradict your own OP's words? Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #5

The OP shows where this 'support' is coming from, King_David Jul 2014 #6

Yes, the assault on the Palestinians. For crying out loud, read your own OP's. Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #7

Yes all Jews are fair game, King_David Jul 2014 #8

Your OP's all point to the correlation...blow back sucks. End the occupation would go a long Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #11

History shows ending the occupation will not really have any effect on ending antisemitism, King_David Jul 2014 #14

History shows? The occupation has never ended...just so you know. n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #19

Just so you know, King_David Jul 2014 #22

Read your own OP, it is a story about PRESENT day events. I did not write the OP, btw. n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #37

The OP is clear, King_David Jul 2014 #39

Hatred and Bigotry are worldwide, dave. They are timeless and go back to the beginning. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2014 #159

Occupation/Settlements ended in Gaza & Hamas immediately fired more rockets. shira Jul 2014 #61

So are you pitching in for one state now, Shira? Scootaloo Jul 2014 #77

I think you'd agree with me.... shira Jul 2014 #80

I'm asking if you're getting on board the one-state train Shira Scootaloo Jul 2014 #82

The 2 nations cannot co-exist peacefully together shira Jul 2014 #86

Holy cow. Just move out. n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #102

Gaza's history is documented accurately by Sara Roy and other scholars. Your account is Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #94

What Kurska said in this thread - +1 King_David Jul 2014 #118

I'm shocked. n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #119

You're a terrible hater - anti-Semite agbdf Jul 2014 #116

My views as espoused are the same views as the Democratic Party of the USA King_David Jul 2014 #117

I think that poster Aerows Jul 2014 #205

Was misunderstanding King_David Jul 2014 #206

Good Aerows Jul 2014 #207

Yea I knew after reading that post a couple of times that he was genuinely upset by what he thought King_David Jul 2014 #208

Not making judgments either way Aerows Jul 2014 #209

So therefore Islamophobic attacks happen due to Muslim terror worldwide.... shira Jul 2014 #12

Clueless statement, I suspect intentionally so. n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #16

It's the equivalent of the crap you're arguing. n/t shira Jul 2014 #21

Foreign policy errors and injustices have a way of hitting you back hard. Like the occupation. Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #25

Sounds like justification 4 settler extremists who burned that kid.... shira Jul 2014 #31

JUSTIFICATION is a word you seem to not be able to use appropriately. Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #36

So we should attempt 2 'understand' how important cause & effect.... shira Jul 2014 #49

There is a vicious cycle, which the occupation fuels. n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #50

It's wrong trying to "contextualize" hate crimes. Learn from this. n/t shira Jul 2014 #52

You need to learn, one day you might. Stick around, this group may do you some good one day. n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #53

Well, that's been the excuse islamophobes use, yeah Scootaloo Jul 2014 #78

There is nothing in the OP, nothing anyone can point to, that even hints that the criminal Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #120

There's absolutely no excuse for bigotry King_David Jul 2014 #211

CENTCOM, no excuse was given..but you really don't like those reports, I understand. Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #212

Serves me ? King_David Jul 2014 #213

Exactly right King_David Aug 2014 #217

There is always justification for attacking Jews, don't u know? n/t shira Jul 2014 #10

There is never justification for attacking Jews, King_David Jul 2014 #26

Justification and understanding correlations for what motivates violence are two different things. Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #33

So Hamas terror correlates to settlers who just burned that kid. shira Jul 2014 #34

Oh the OP is clear enough, King_David Jul 2014 #38

I have news for you, the OP you posted..you can't rewrite it. Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #40

Another tangent, King_David Jul 2014 #41

Disconnected. Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #42

Yes you made the right 'call' King_David Jul 2014 #43

I think so, anyone interested can read the OP and my responses...I have no concerns. n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #44

Not at all, King_David Jul 2014 #45

It's spreading King_David Jul 2014 #130

Sorry to hear that, unintended consequences are a terrible thing. n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #131

AntiSemitic incidents excused like that are a favorite meme King_David Jul 2014 #132

No excuses were given, but you can try and smear it that way..smear the CIA reports too. n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #133

Saying that attacking Jews anywhere is a "consequence" King_David Jul 2014 #134

Absurd, chidlish tactics in your attempt to misrepresent. You will say anything to Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #135

Anyone Excusing hate crimes . King_David Jul 2014 #136

Yea, but that's not what I said, and you know it. You can try and smear me and the CENTCOM report Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #137

No smear King_David Jul 2014 #138

Yes, I do believe you are not sincere and have tried to no end to misrepresent, all to Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #139

It's revealing for all to read, King_David Jul 2014 #140

I stand by what I said, I do not feel you're sincere. I saw your link to here in another thread Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #141

Intimidate you ? King_David Jul 2014 #142

Matthew Sheppard has NOTHING to do with the occupation. DO NOT try and conflate the two. Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #143

Hate crimes against minorities King_David Jul 2014 #144

No, that would be you denying the CENTCOM report and misrepresenting to suit your agenda. Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #145

There's never an excuse for hate crimes King_David Jul 2014 #146

No excuses were given by anyone, but you'll persist to conflate it that way to suit your goal. n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #147

It's all here in the thread King_David Jul 2014 #148

Yea, it is..unfortunately for you. Every time you conflate I will respond when I see it. Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #149

Why unfortunately for me ? King_David Jul 2014 #150

You're still at it, conflating and misrepresenting, intentionally..sad really. Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #151

Too late. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2014 #160

I'm finding your blaming the leftynyc Jul 2014 #185

+1000. nt. IronGate Jul 2014 #188

I'm not interested in what you think, at all, nor your false claims. n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #190

This is true. nt King_David Jul 2014 #192

but what does a local sabbat hunter Jul 2014 #54

You know it is an excuse, how? Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #58

What a repulsive reply. shira Jul 2014 #9

You're calling me a Jew hater? Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #13

No, I'm saying your reply is repulsive for reasons given. n/t shira Jul 2014 #18

Then how can you say, no? That does not make sense and is inconsistent with your statements. Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #20

Because people make offensive knee jerk comments constantly.... shira Jul 2014 #23

But that's not what you said...not at all. Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #27

If I wanted to accuse you, I would NOT have criticized your REPLY shira Jul 2014 #29

Oh it helps alright..no worries. I got your message. n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #30

I doubt that. It's not your mo. you skirt the rules here by insinuating hateful and utrue stuff. cali Jul 2014 #154

I think its clear she said Jew Haters need no justification to attack Jews, King_David Jul 2014 #32

This message was self-deleted by its author cerveza_gratis Jul 2014 #15

Really? Did you judge the same for blow back from our foreign policy with Iraq too? Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author cerveza_gratis Jul 2014 #24

Condemn, I did. I said it was terrible. AND I said it is related to the occupation as does the OP Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #28

One word and you started your post with "end the occupation" and ended it with "blowback" Kurska Jul 2014 #71

I focused on the correlation, like the OP pointed out. That you feel I did not Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #93

Ahem, you took a brutal anti-semitic attack and made it about what Israel is doing wrong. Kurska Jul 2014 #95

The OP reflects that correlation, that you don't agree is irrelevant. n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #96

Minorities don't earn their hate crimes. Kurska Jul 2014 #98

Stupid is to imagine a 47 year old occupation is a walk through the park and will have Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #99

Okay let me explain something. Kurska Jul 2014 #100

Are you lacking in comprehension so deeply that you think even for a second that the OP Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #101

You keep using correlation as if it is some detatched way of applying a mathematical formula Kurska Jul 2014 #103

Nonsense. I suggest you read the OP, and the thread. The Rabbi who had the crap beat out of him made Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #104

I find it amazing you can't comprehend the difference Kurska Jul 2014 #105

Puke right back at ya. Enjoy your bubble. Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #106

Yes it is a bubble to not blame minorities for their own hate crimes. Kurska Jul 2014 #107

Good luck, one day you may be bored and look up that correlation is not justification for crimes. Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #108

k Kurska Jul 2014 #109

Maybe it will help you to read through a dictionary, you could help yourself or not. Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #110

Why blowback? Kurska Jul 2014 #111

Enjoy, but why you like puking on yourself, I don't know..it's sad. n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #112

Wait why would you assume that I am puking ON myself? Kurska Jul 2014 #113

Sorry, it's all over you. Try and get help for it. n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #114

+1 King_David Jul 2014 #152

'What does a Jew in France or Morocco have to do with this?' King_David Jul 2014 #35

This message was self-deleted by its author cerveza_gratis Jul 2014 #56

Me too I condemn every single disgusting price tag attacks. nt King_David Jul 2014 #60

None were given, but you knew that when you posted this response..regardless. n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #162

Sounds like you are justifying this attack Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #155

did you read the OP it was the very first sentence in the snip azurnoir Jul 2014 #156

I did read it. Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #157

do you think the Rabbi's claim is valid? but here's the comment I was replying too azurnoir Jul 2014 #158

No, I'm not, never have and you can read the thread, if you like. n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #161

I did read the thread. Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #163

Exactly right King_David Jul 2014 #164

Then I would venture you did not understand the thread. No excuses/justifiying was given. Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #165

You believe that the rabbi understands? Really? Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #166

I can only go by his statements, and they are clear as to the reason he was attacked. Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #167

The fact is, your immediate response was "End the occupation". Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #168

You keep insisting on using one part of what I said, for a reason, I suspect, and one which I do not Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #169

So, why did you open with it? Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #170

You imagine legitimacy..none was given by me nor the CENTCOM reports. Ending the Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #171

Great! Thanks for clarifying. Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #172

You're very welcome..being misunderstood happens easily..especially with a contentious issue Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #173

Psst...those 'occupiers' wercal Jul 2014 #176

The anti semites in Morrocco are keeping the occupation going? Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #177

What's the death toll in Palestine today? How many were children? nt WhiteTara Jul 2014 #46

List of the 176 Palestinians, Including Whole Families, Killed Since Tuesday ( GRAPHIC WARNING ) Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #47

"The majority of the wounded are children" WhiteTara Jul 2014 #48

Always. n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #51

Well maybe if the terrorist org Hamas IronGate Jul 2014 #55

Background on Human Shields Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #59

You can't seriously advocate 4 Palestinian lives by denying Hamas human shielding. n/t shira Jul 2014 #62

I have no idea what your point is..from what you said. n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #97

Those who deny Hamas using Palestinian children as shields.... shira Jul 2014 #124

That is your reaction to the report on the IDF? Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #125

You purposely deflected from Hamas use of shields.... shira Jul 2014 #127

Nah, it was posted for anyone here who thinks or expected that the IDF has never conducted Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #128

So, Israel outlawed the use of civilians as human shields IronGate Jul 2014 #64

The IDF as has been documented, continued to utilize human shields. n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #92

The building filled with disabled people WhiteTara Jul 2014 #63

Hamas has a well established policy of using such buildings as military positions IronGate Jul 2014 #65

Judging by Israel's past deeds WhiteTara Jul 2014 #66

Fine, IronGate Jul 2014 #67

I remember Shatilla and Sabra WhiteTara Jul 2014 #68

Good for you. nt. IronGate Jul 2014 #70

Thank you +100 840high Jul 2014 #121

+1000 leftynyc Jul 2014 #186

+2000 King_David Jul 2014 #193

No standing... PCIntern Jul 2014 #72

That's not the conversation. nt WhiteTara Jul 2014 #73

Of course it isn't...it never is. PCIntern Jul 2014 #74

You want that conversation? WhiteTara Jul 2014 #75

If you remember it then sabbat hunter Jul 2014 #87

after Ariel Sharon gave the go ahead and stood by and WhiteTara Jul 2014 #88

So, you are excusing the actions of that butcher, Ariel Sharon? rateyes Jul 2014 #174

did sabbat hunter Jul 2014 #178

Way to deflect from answering the question. rateyes Jul 2014 #179

What deflection? King_David Jul 2014 #180

There was not a question in the post you linked to. Read it again. rateyes Jul 2014 #181

I agree with what was said here, King_David Jul 2014 #182

And, that doesn't answer the question. rateyes Jul 2014 #183

Crickets rateyes Jul 2014 #184

some of us sabbat hunter Jul 2014 #191

What you said +1 King_David Jul 2014 #194

The fact that you would give any cover rateyes Jul 2014 #196

I never heard you condemn the Lebanese who actually King_David Jul 2014 #197

Of course I condemn them. Let me now hear you condemn Sharon. rateyes Jul 2014 #198

Who are you demanding we answer to you? King_David Jul 2014 #199

And you engaged in the side conversation rateyes Jul 2014 #200

Deflecting from the real topic here King_David Jul 2014 #201

There is enough hatred on both sides to go around, worldwide. rateyes Jul 2014 #202

Not going on your tangent King_David Jul 2014 #203

I didn't expect you would. rateyes Jul 2014 #204

Hamas is to blame for every death in this conflict King_David Jul 2014 #69

I think this map gives a different explanation WhiteTara Jul 2014 #76

And then ? King_David Jul 2014 #81

And then? How about Israel gives back its stolen land WhiteTara Jul 2014 #83

This message was self-deleted by its author King_David Jul 2014 #84

If those maniacs hit the nuclear facility King_David Jul 2014 #85

Time to disarm. nt WhiteTara Jul 2014 #89

Imagine if Hamas got hold of a nuclear weapon? King_David Jul 2014 #90

Even more reason to disarm. nt WhiteTara Jul 2014 #91

You would give into terrorists like that? leftynyc Jul 2014 #187

Even more reason to disarm? IronGate Jul 2014 #189

Israel is not suicidal King_David Jul 2014 #195

Admit dimona? Shaktimaan Jul 2014 #123

Connecting every anti Semitic attack madaboutharry Jul 2014 #57

Correct. Very sad. 840high Jul 2014 #122

What a cowardly, craven little shit. Scootaloo Jul 2014 #79

Definitely... shaayecanaan Jul 2014 #115

Horrible Aerows Jul 2014 #214

Rabbi of Casablanca assaulted over Israel�s Gaza operation Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #126

Kick King_David Jul 2014 #129

Kick King_David Jul 2014 #153

This message was self-deleted by its author King_David Jul 2014 #175

Kick King_David Jul 2014 #210

Any updates Dave? n/t Scootaloo Jul 2014 #215

This message was self-deleted by its author King_David Jul 2014 #216