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oberliner

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33. This is not true
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 09:51 AM
Aug 2014

At least not at first. The original Zionists purchased land and settled in places that were not inhabited. They established small communities that did not impinge on the neighboring pre-existing communities.

You will note that there was no independent Palestinian state at the time of the early Zionist movement - the inhabitants there were living under Ottoman rule.

Initially, there was real hope that the ambitions of the Zionist movement and the growing Palestinian nationalist movement could have co-existed, and indeed helped one another to achieve their goals.

I would argue that were it not for a confluence of factors, this dream was not all that far fetched.

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Nope, it’s not The Onion...... Israeli Aug 2014 #1
There are a lot of sick people in this world 4now Aug 2014 #3
A very powerful letter 4now Aug 2014 #2
"sponsored by the International Jewish Anti-Zionist Network..." oberliner Aug 2014 #4
The article said they're Holocaust survivors... Violet_Crumble Aug 2014 #5
No it didn't oberliner Aug 2014 #6
Yes it did... Violet_Crumble Aug 2014 #7
Is there a breakdown ? King_David Aug 2014 #9
The breakdown can be found on the "International Jewish anti-Zionist Network" oberliner Aug 2014 #10
Could be. Does that negate their condemnation of the Gaza massacre? Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #11
What does anti-Zionist mean exactly? Is it bad? Is it like accusing someone of racism? DanTex Aug 2014 #12
Most Jews think it's a form of antisemitism. aranthus Aug 2014 #13
Thanks. Do self-professed anti-Zionists describe themselves in the same way? DanTex Aug 2014 #14
Some do, and some don't. aranthus Aug 2014 #15
I'm in the "fait accompli" category. DanTex Aug 2014 #17
"the original Zionist migration was essentially colonial..." oberliner Aug 2014 #29
I think this because one group of people moved to lands where other people already lived DanTex Aug 2014 #31
This is not true oberliner Aug 2014 #33
The intention was to establish a new Jewish state in a land with an existing native population. DanTex Aug 2014 #35
Again, this is not true oberliner Aug 2014 #38
Of course they did. DanTex Aug 2014 #40
An brief account of the early Zionist migrations from a book I read a while ago. DanTex Aug 2014 #42
Mahalo, Israeli Cha Aug 2014 #8
Condemnation from an organziation leftynyc Aug 2014 #16
Yea the chutzpah to think anyone should care King_David Aug 2014 #18
You gotta love leftynyc Aug 2014 #19
The progressive Jews I know are just as disgusted by the Gaza massacre as progressive non-Jews. DanTex Aug 2014 #20
I didn't like the leftynyc Aug 2014 #23
But you will happily judge the actions of Hamas, even though you haven't lived under DanTex Aug 2014 #26
Anti-Zionism has a very leftynyc Aug 2014 #28
That doesn't seem to be the case -- for example, wikipedia says anti-Zionism is "broadly defined". DanTex Aug 2014 #30
I don't care what wikipedia has to say on the issue leftynyc Aug 2014 #32
I think that, following your lead on the word "liberal," we should let self-described DanTex Aug 2014 #34
In a perfect world leftynyc Aug 2014 #36
Hamas agrees with you that "you can't kill civilians" is bullshit. DanTex Aug 2014 #37
You want Israel to either take leftynyc Aug 2014 #39
I want them not to murder Palestinians by the hundreds or thousands. DanTex Aug 2014 #41
Much less than 5% King_David Aug 2014 #21
Yeah - that's what I think also leftynyc Aug 2014 #24
probably much less than that sabbat hunter Aug 2014 #22
They don't serve in the military either leftynyc Aug 2014 #25
International Jewish Anti-Zionist Network King_David Aug 2014 #27
The law was changed last March:Israel passes law to conscript ultra-Orthodox Jews into military azurnoir Aug 2014 #43
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