Israel/Palestine
In reply to the discussion: Exclusive: Schabas’ own colleague, human rights icon Aryeh Neier, calls for him to quit UN Gaza prob [View all]Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)With its 4:1 civilian:combatant kill ratio in Gaza. They were equal back in 2008, with the US invasion and occupation of Iraq having a 3:2 ratio, and Cast Lead also having a 3:2 ratio.
Neither are especially good.
back in 2005, Israel had a ratio of 1:10. You should be arguing and pushing for Israel to get that back, rather than constantly lowering your own standards to defend the ever-increasing number of civilians killed in Israel's operations.
As for the United States, the bigger problem than just our willingness to lower standards of targeting - that's a big problem, but there are bigger - is our "final goal" in the operation. Our declared goal is the overthrow of Assad, and then... and then... and then...? Yeah, there's nothing past that. Sort of like Ghaddafi, we just want the dude with the name gone and then we declare victory and go home and let hte locals figure that shit out.
And that has gone so well in Libya, hasn't it? The US' stated preferred outcome in this scenario is something that will likely turn Syria into Afghanistan circa 1990. That... is going to cause a lot more problems than just lowering our already flimsy standards on firing on civilians.