Israel/Palestine

oberliner

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26. No worries

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 03:43 PM

Oct 2014

Would you not agree that the Hamas leadership has not been entirely consistent on that matter?

Hamas will ‘never recognize Israel,’ PM Haniyeh says to 30,000 Iranians

http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/02/11/193908.html

Hamas leader says group will never recognize Israel

http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/12/14/us-palestinians-hamas-idUSTRE6BD2XW20101214

Meshaal gave a fiery speech to a huge number of ralliers who braved the rain to attend.

“We will never recognize Israel’s occupation of legitimate Palestinian lands, and we will not recognize Israel,” the Hamas leader told the cheering crowd.

“Palestine is our land from the Mediterranean Sea to the River Jordan, and we will never give away an inch of it,” he added.

http://rt.com/news/hamas-celebrations-gaza-meshaal-585/

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Palestinians pelt Jerusalem kindergarten with rocks [View all] shira Oct 2014 OP

Do you ever ask yourself why shira ? Israeli Oct 2014 #1

Thanks for this article. safeinOhio Oct 2014 #2

Gaza Christians long for days before Hamas cancelled Christmas King_David Oct 2014 #5

There is never ever an excuse nor an explanation ever for pelting a Kindergarten with stones. King_David Oct 2014 #3

Nor is there ever an excuse for trying to blow up a Muslim girls' school in Jerusalem..... Israeli Oct 2014 #6

Agreed King_David Oct 2014 #7

Sure ..... Israeli Oct 2014 #8

Maybe some day King_David Oct 2014 #35

Pathetic, isn't it? They can't condemn such a depraved act... shira Oct 2014 #48

Only the blind cant see where you are coming from shira .... Israeli Oct 2014 #49

Sure, there's some hysteria but this is condescending, dismissive... shira Oct 2014 #50

Fail ??? Israeli Oct 2014 #53

The first thing you quoted is hysterical... shira Oct 2014 #59

You posted a whole article from Haaretz here on DU that people usually have to pay for. King_David Oct 2014 #4

There's no excuse, no reason "why"..... shira Oct 2014 #9

Sure there is shira .... Israeli Oct 2014 #10

It's not about Judea and Samaria.... shira Oct 2014 #11

That needs a link, or two. n/t Jefferson23 Oct 2014 #12

Here's dozens of links for anyone objective.... shira Oct 2014 #13

Palwatch, right. The man behind it is living on occupied territory. You're as transparent as your Jefferson23 Oct 2014 #14

As I wrote, anyone objective can see it in those videos. n/t shira Oct 2014 #16

No worries, you have confirmed exactly who you stand with by claiming Palwatch, a Jefferson23 Oct 2014 #18

The videos don't lie. The proof is overwhelming. shira Oct 2014 #20

You can't distance yourself from Palwatch, it has everything to do with what you believe Jefferson23 Oct 2014 #21

Do you think Hamas doesn't see Israel as Occupied Palestine? oberliner Oct 2014 #22

It doesn't matter what the hell I think, your claims are based on evidence presented Jefferson23 Oct 2014 #23

I didn't make any claims oberliner Oct 2014 #24

Sorry..that was for shira, my mistake. Jefferson23 Oct 2014 #25

No worries oberliner Oct 2014 #26

They have not changed their charter, oberliner..you know this and you also know Jefferson23 Oct 2014 #32

I do not believe they are on the record saying that Israel has a legitimate claim to that land oberliner Oct 2014 #36

As I already said, they have not changed their charter, nor has Likud. They have stated Jefferson23 Oct 2014 #37

"Hamas and the PA make it clear all Israel is occupied territory" oberliner Oct 2014 #38

Even if they would? They're on the record, that's the point. We know what Likud is Jefferson23 Oct 2014 #54

So all those Palwatch videos are bullshit? That's your claim? n/t shira Oct 2014 #29

Yes. n/t Jefferson23 Oct 2014 #31

Hundreds, if not thousands of videos & reports. That's a LOT.... shira Oct 2014 #33

It is a lot of bullshit, Palwatch is good at it, evidently. Jefferson23 Oct 2014 #34

LOL. n/t shira Oct 2014 #47

Nothing funny about the terror of the Likud. n/t Jefferson23 Oct 2014 #56

There's no sense discussing anything about I/P with you.... shira Oct 2014 #60

Considering your next attempt in this thread is to equate the Holocaust and Palestinians, I Jefferson23 Oct 2014 #61

I'm sorry al-Husseini's role w/ Nazis is uncomfortable for you shira Oct 2014 #63

His role as defined by Barry Rubin...lol. n/t Jefferson23 Oct 2014 #64

That article from the Independent was hysterical. I commented below. n/t shira Oct 2014 #66

Your Rubin truthiness has been a revelation...good luck. n/t Jefferson23 Oct 2014 #69

Love your Robert Fisk "Uranium Bomb" truthiness... shira Oct 2014 #79

I stand by every word because the documentation even Israel acknowledges as to the Jefferson23 Oct 2014 #81

okay .... Israeli Oct 2014 #15

lol +1 Jefferson23 Oct 2014 #17

Gaza is proof it's not about the West Bank... shira Oct 2014 #19

Memories of ...2005.... Israeli Oct 2014 #27

What does Amona have to do with what happened after Gaza 2005? shira Oct 2014 #28

Absolutely nothing shira ..... Israeli Oct 2014 #30

There's no excuse, but there is a reason. Obviously. DanTex Oct 2014 #39

It's not really civilsed action, King_David Oct 2014 #40

What was the reason Palestine's first leader, the Mufti al-Husseini.... shira Oct 2014 #41

are you saying the Palestinians played a role in the Holocaust? you mention they allied with Hitler azurnoir Oct 2014 #42

Look up what the Mufti did during WW2. Get back to me... shira Oct 2014 #43

you seem expert so please answer for us n/t azurnoir Oct 2014 #44

Again, get back to me once you learn about his role.... shira Oct 2014 #45

Don't wish to answer I take it, okay that's answer enough in itself for me azurnoir Oct 2014 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author Scootaloo Oct 2014 #51

I suggest you do the same, Shira. Scootaloo Oct 2014 #52

If one of the Nashashibis had been allowed to be Grand Mufti - partition would have been accepted oberliner Oct 2014 #57

Maybe Scootaloo Oct 2014 #83

Mahmoud Abbas said of al-Husseini's leadership and activism... shira Oct 2014 #58

Tip, Shira? Scootaloo Oct 2014 #84

She relies on Barry Rubin and other like minded for her "historical" truthiness: Jefferson23 Oct 2014 #62

Your article from the Independent is hysterical shira Oct 2014 #65

They absolutely do, and you can try and back peddle it, but I would say, you're too late. n/t Jefferson23 Oct 2014 #67

No they don't, but go on and quote them since u believe they do. shira Oct 2014 #68

You haven't produced anything to counter Fisk, your attempt to refute him rests Jefferson23 Oct 2014 #70

What? He's claiming something that doesn't exist. I can't disprove that. shira Oct 2014 #72

He would need to have a direct quote for intention..that's what your claim is? Jefferson23 Oct 2014 #75

He should at least cite the page(s) from the book. n/t shira Oct 2014 #78

Your absolute nutball of a source Robert Fisk claimed... shira Oct 2014 #71

Fisk is a nutball? uh huh. Jefferson23 Oct 2014 #73

Uranium bombs in Lebanon? Your source. n/t shira Oct 2014 #74

You're confused, shira. If you have any issue that he's wrong then produce what was used Jefferson23 Oct 2014 #76

Note how I'm providing evidence of my claim... shira Oct 2014 #77

He asked the question, and you know he did, but you left that out, intentionally. Jefferson23 Oct 2014 #80

He asked a question? Gee, he could've asked anything... shira Oct 2014 #82

Another strawman speial delivery from, shira. Sounds like Bibi, do not second guess me. n/t Jefferson23 Oct 2014 #85

+1 grossproffit Oct 2014 #55

Here's an assumption no one made GESICC Oct 2014 #86

Over a million Palestinians live in Israel and go to Israeli schools oberliner Oct 2014 #87

Well fine if that's where it is... GESICC Oct 2014 #88

How many of those "Palestinians" that "live in and go to Israeli schools" are Israeli citizens? azurnoir Oct 2014 #89

Wow oberliner Oct 2014 #90

so you consider it extraordinary that a country allows its own citizens to attend its schools? azurnoir Oct 2014 #91