Israel/Palestine

shaayecanaan

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52. For someone who claims to be unacquainted with the issues at hand...

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 07:49 PM

Apr 2012

you certainly seem rather set in your ideas.

I'm not saying that you are intentionally supporting a lie. I'm just trying to understand what you are seeing that I am missing. Shira's linked article is full of events that can all be checked against other sources. If you can show a couple of those to be fabrications that would go a log way toward me wondering if maybe Palestinian Arab Christians are a special case and that, unlike in all other ME Muslim majority states, Palestinian Arab Muslims really like having them around practicing their "Crusader" rituals.

Oh.

Hmm.

(clicks on profile)

Ah.

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When Michael Oren irked Bob Simon [View all] Scurrilous Apr 2012 OP

The 60 minutes piece was a hatchet job. Oren is right... shira Apr 2012 #1

The interior quote in the OP is from Mondoweiss, not Ha'aretz oberliner Apr 2012 #2

What upsets Oren is that the report doesn't mischaracterize all Palestinians as Islamic extremists leveymg Apr 2012 #3

What upsets Oren & others is there's no evidence Israeli policy has an adverse affect on Xtians. shira Apr 2012 #5

If you watched it, the adverse effects on Israeli/Pal Xtians are clear leveymg Apr 2012 #7

How does the wall, occupation, checkpoints single out christians and not muslims? shira Apr 2012 #8

The point is that it impacts all Palestinians, including Christians, who are leaving Palestine leveymg Apr 2012 #10

Rrrright. It has nothing to do with Hamas/Fatah and Islamist extremism, does it? shira Apr 2012 #13

So then - BudT Apr 2012 #14

The Christians leave in larger numbers because they can... shaayecanaan Apr 2012 #19

In other words, you realize the 60 minutes piece was misleading BS... shira Apr 2012 #23

I think you're putting words in his/her mouth, and twisting them beyond recognition leveymg Apr 2012 #24

You're trying to cover for Simon's misleading report... shira Apr 2012 #26

I beg to differ BudT Apr 2012 #27

I don't see the same message in Simon's report that Xtians are being intentionally persecuted. leveymg Apr 2012 #34

Oh please. The report was about Israeli policy leading to a dwindling Christian population... shira Apr 2012 #38

I think we've done our best to make it clear for you... shaayecanaan Apr 2012 #39

You're Lebanese. Tell us what has led to the mass exodus of Christians from Lebanon... shira Apr 2012 #40

And I appreciate your efforts at making it clear for me. BudT Apr 2012 #43

For someone who claims to be unacquainted with the issues at hand... shaayecanaan Apr 2012 #52

I did not claim "to be unacquainted with the issues at hand". BudT Apr 2012 #54

Another factor driving the situation BudT Apr 2012 #44

A few more things for you to consider... shaayecanaan Apr 2012 #53

Thanks. Keep filling me in. BudT Apr 2012 #55

Not many plot points on that graph there... shaayecanaan Apr 2012 #56

I noticed that too. BudT Apr 2012 #60

Well, it cuts both ways, Bud... shaayecanaan Apr 2012 #61

Like most real issues it cuts many ways. BudT Apr 2012 #64

That doesn't make sense, Bud... shaayecanaan Apr 2012 #65

Doesn't make sense? BudT Apr 2012 #72

And does anyone in their right mind jimmie Apr 2012 #16

"the Palestinian Arabs"? shaayecanaan Apr 2012 #20

Of course that wasn't mentioned by Bob Simon either. Just a hatchet job. n/t shira Apr 2012 #28

I watched it carefully. BudT Apr 2012 #4

Excellent response! I believe what is truly sinister about this 60 minutes hatchet job... shira Apr 2012 #6

Interesting... Scurrilous Apr 2012 #9

What is interesting about that? oberliner Apr 2012 #68

An occasional Palestinian Christian encounter of Israeli intolerance azurnoir Apr 2012 #11

This is an Op Ed piece by Baha Hilo oberliner Apr 2012 #12

well what of it? what damning evidence do you have against this person? n/t azurnoir Apr 2012 #15

Evidence of what? oberliner Apr 2012 #18

oh so it seems you were red flagging bias based on the writer having an Arab name? n/t azurnoir Apr 2012 #21

Bizarre that it would seem that way to you oberliner Apr 2012 #22

was wondering the same thing what if someone brought up a Jewish writer simply on that basis however azurnoir Apr 2012 #35

I just think it's good to know who is saying what oberliner Apr 2012 #41

I was surprised 60 Minutes ran this story..good for them. n/t Jefferson23 Apr 2012 #17

Netanyahu was briefed on efforts to stop '60 Minutes' report on Israel's Christians Scurrilous Apr 2012 #25

Good to see Israel is pro-actively addressing the Delegitimization campaign. n/t shira Apr 2012 #29

Guess this buries the myth of Israeli influence over the US oberliner Apr 2012 #30

Yea, if lobby influence and the Israeli government influence are not 100% successful Jefferson23 Apr 2012 #31

Zero Percent actually oberliner Apr 2012 #32

There is no influence, ok. Enjoy your fantasy. n/t Jefferson23 Apr 2012 #33

And you are free to enjoy yours oberliner Apr 2012 #42

One day you'll be able to demonstrate that, perhaps. n/t Jefferson23 Apr 2012 #47

Israeli PR machine in frenzy over CBS report on Christians Scurrilous Apr 2012 #36

This isn't damage control for Israel. It's being proactive vs. the delegitimization campaign. n/t shira Apr 2012 #37

PALESTINIAN CHRISTLANS: CHALLENGES AND HOPES azurnoir Apr 2012 #45

Good article BudT Apr 2012 #46

Christian/Muslim relations in the territories are excellent? Who is the author kidding? shira Apr 2012 #48

Thank you for that incredible list azurnoir Apr 2012 #49

In other words, you have nothing other than shooting the messenger.... shira Apr 2012 #50

well it quite a crop you;ve harvested from there azurnoir Apr 2012 #51

What about The Guardian? oberliner Apr 2012 #58

I'm betting the Guardian would erase all traces of the article... shira Apr 2012 #71

You'd think there might have been at least one Arab Christian source in amongst all that (nt) shaayecanaan Apr 2012 #57

What are some good Arab Christian sources? oberliner Apr 2012 #59

You're talking to one... shaayecanaan Apr 2012 #62

I was just wondering if there was a specific news source or blog you had in mind oberliner Apr 2012 #63

Have a read of this if you like shaayecanaan Apr 2012 #66

I taught Arab Christians for a year in Jerusalem oberliner Apr 2012 #67

I'm not sure why you need me to refer you to Arab blogs then shaayecanaan Apr 2012 #69

Not everyone has that luxury oberliner Apr 2012 #70

Where are all the reports out of Palestine about persecution of gays, women.... shira Apr 2012 #74

Of course no one supports this jimmie Apr 2012 #76

Yeah, nice "Leftist/Progressive" movement doing rightwing humanitarianism. shira Apr 2012 #77

PA Declares Church in Bethlehem to be Unlawful Mosby Apr 2012 #73

Remember the disgusting Church of the Nativity siege by Palestinian gunmen... shira Apr 2012 #75

Bob Simon himself invited Oren to react to the program BEFORE it broadcast henank Apr 2012 #78

As long as his lies affect only Israel negatively, that's okay... shira Apr 2012 #79