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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Thu Nov 25, 2021, 10:33 AM

1. Unlikely

"Imagine if you can, those 2 statements being played over, and over,"

Go find a recording of him saying the second one - about losers and suckers - and post a link to it here.

He probably said it, but there is nothing to be "played over, and over" because there is no such recording of him saying any such thing. It is a quote that is attributed to him, but there are others who were on that particular trip who deny he said any such thing.

The only source for the quote is "liberal media", "fake news", etc., which none of his voters believe. Someone says he said it. Other people say he didn't say it. Whether anyone believes he said it is determined solely by whether they support him in the first place. It doesn't persuade anyone - it only confirms the opinion they already have.

On the "covid hoax" thing, I doubt anyone cares about that either. It was replayed over and over before the last election, which ended up being so depressingly close that we didn't know the result until days later. And, in the meantime, the Republicans have been doing their best to make it more difficult for people to vote, as a direct consequence.

Aside from which, on that one too, there are two takes. In the context of the rant he was on, he was referring to use of covid as an issue to go after him, analogous to their dumb take on the Russian campaign interference investigation (which resulted in several successful criminal prosecutions), and not as a claim relating to whether the virus was, in fact, real. It's pretty obvious he wasn't running around suggesting we inject bleach, stick UV lights in our assholes, or take malaria medication for a disease that didn't exist.

This kind of thinking is a reflection of "we should emphasize things about Trump that people who don't like Trump already agree about". Unfortunately, it is difficult to be objective about "what messaging works" if one already has a strong opinion on the subject, because it is simply an exercise in confirming one's own opinion, rather than trying to persuade someone who holds a different opinion.

In any event, go get that "losers" recording, and post a link to it here. I'd like to hear whatever recording you are talking about.

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