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47. For those of us in North Carolina, this is so bittersweet. I don't know what to say.

Wed May 9, 2012, 06:21 PM

May 2012

I would take the long view and say that President Obama's statement will mean more, historically, than the vote in North Carolina to amend the state constitution to outlaw all forms of domestic partnerships for all people except marriage between a man and a woman, but there's that states' rights component to President Obama's statement.

I realize that progress is measured in tiny steps, one step forward, sometimes two steps back, then three steps forward, but today in North Carolina we are hurting, we know that many people will be hurt in very real ways by yesterday's vote, and it's just difficult to celebrate at all. It's just difficult.

I love you, Duncan. I mean that. I sincerely feel love for you. Please know that my feelings are coming from a very deep place.

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So he supports it, but still wants the voters in the states to decide [View all] dbackjon May 2012 OP

Your concern is duly noted. n/t Ian David May 2012 #1

Actually, it's a valid concern. Don't you think? TriMera May 2012 #3

Maybe we should wait at least 24 hours until we go into Debbie Downer mode. n/t Ian David May 2012 #6

Your concern for my lack of enthusiasm is duly noted dbackjon May 2012 #12

And so is your lack of enthusiasm for my concern about your... where were we again? n/t Ian David May 2012 #13

"debbie downer mode" Marrah_G May 2012 #22

It's interesting that the president didn't wait for 24 hours after the NC vote. yardwork May 2012 #39

I have some thoughts on it, but I'm going to wait and see what else trickles out. n/t Ian David May 2012 #43

king's knight on the 27th level of the 38th dimension Creideiki May 2012 #56

Check-blarn! n/t Ian David May 2012 #58

I heard on my tv DURHAM D May 2012 #45

Because 'States Rights" works so well in issues of Vanje May 2012 #2

What can he do? Sincere question. He can't override States Rights. I'm not sure gateley May 2012 #4

Except in the case of MMJ pscot May 2012 #5

Well there's a federal law in the books on that (but it still enrages me what they're gateley May 2012 #8

What about the Supreme Court case bonnieS May 2012 #49

I wasn't aware of the Olson/Boise case, but I sure agree with you on that. gateley May 2012 #54

see this link: bonnieS May 2012 #55

Thanks!! nt gateley May 2012 #57

Civil rights are not a states' rights issue. If they were, TriMera May 2012 #7

Well that's an EXCELLENT point. nt gateley May 2012 #9

+1 Little Star May 2012 #35

+1000 Fearless May 2012 #59

He could work on the IRS to allow ALL married couples to file as 'married', for one. nilram May 2012 #17

If your state is in favor of marriage equality, there's no reason shcrane71 May 2012 #42

How were civil rights/equality laws passed in regards to race? Marrah_G May 2012 #31

Good point -- but it cost Johnson the South. I'm grateful he took this step for NOW and gateley May 2012 #41

it`s a state rights issue madrchsod May 2012 #10

Really? See post #7. n/t TriMera May 2012 #14

There are also states that will never recognize interracial marriage... WillParkinson May 2012 #24

Slavery was once a States rights issue too. William769 May 2012 #26

~facepalm~ Marrah_G May 2012 #32

yup..the more i thought about it and the feedback i was given madrchsod May 2012 #33

I'm glad you reconsidered. Thank you. n/t TriMera May 2012 #34

No, ultimately it isn't. Maven May 2012 #38

To me, it seems this statement would have been better made Monday justiceischeap May 2012 #11

It's a good thing each state didn't get to decide civil rights in regards to black people Marrah_G May 2012 #15

That has already started HillWilliam May 2012 #29

I would never tell you to be grateful for being told your civil rights should be left in the hands unapatriciated May 2012 #60

thanks :) Marrah_G May 2012 #61

We have got to press a federal law. MuseRider May 2012 #16

I have found my happiness is a bit softened now. Behind the Aegis May 2012 #18

I have no idea why he chose to add the states rights thing. There was no reason to do that. stevenleser May 2012 #27

It looks like his evolution on this issue is far from complete. Behind the Aegis May 2012 #28

Yup dbackjon May 2012 #36

Seriously, didn't the president just articulate Proud Public Servant May 2012 #19

and quite a few years afterwards...... Marrah_G May 2012 #21

It's Cheney's most (only) progressive position, but you might be right nt stevenleser May 2012 #23

Did the states have to vote to make abelenkpe May 2012 #20

I think having quite a few states pass it is a good first step. Chemisse May 2012 #25

slavery is a state's rights issue dont ya know? will never be illegal nt msongs May 2012 #30

Honestly, let's please not do this. Maven May 2012 #37

Those of us in North Carolina have no victory. We have a devastating defeat. yardwork May 2012 #40

yardwork... Maven May 2012 #44

this is why I love DU Marrah_G May 2012 #48

+1,000,000 Duncan Grant May 2012 #46

For those of us in North Carolina, this is so bittersweet. I don't know what to say. yardwork May 2012 #47

(((yardwork))) Prism May 2012 #50

Thank you! yardwork May 2012 #53

Do we even have words for this kind of injustice? Duncan Grant May 2012 #51

That is a wonderful photo. I know that many churches were on the side of equality and love. yardwork May 2012 #52