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43. No. I don't hold him "responsible" for his genre, I questioned his participation

Reply to La Lioness Priyanka (Reply #42)

Sat Oct 6, 2012, 01:39 PM

Oct 2012

in some of that genre's uglier elements, and a poster down thread confirmed my fears.

That being the case, I'd respect your sense of priorities more if you'd express as much "concern"

about the routine slurring of women in rap, as you do the "reputation" of a rich celebrity you know little about.

Until that happens, we have nothing more to discuss.

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Always good to have another ally. K&R! n/t Fearless Oct 2012 #1

Happily recommended! William769 Oct 2012 #2

Thank you, Jay-Z! I stand and applaud. Raster Oct 2012 #3

That's right, J-Z & discriminating against women is no different than discriminating against EITHER. whathehell Oct 2012 #4

It's not as if he discriminates against women. harmonicon Oct 2012 #5

Why would you have to be a professional musician or music critic to recognise sexism? wickerwoman Oct 2012 #7

I don't follow his music SemperEadem Oct 2012 #8

According to JoeyBee12, he does do that...Ask for the titles if you like. whathehell Oct 2012 #17

I don't know him. SemperEadem Oct 2012 #21

You don't have to...he/she posted in the thread. Questions are allowed. whathehell Oct 2012 #22

I don't follow his music either. wickerwoman Oct 2012 #38

There's an important distinction you're missing here. harmonicon Oct 2012 #11

Uh, no. It's you who are "missing" something. whathehell Oct 2012 #14

What am I missing? harmonicon Oct 2012 #20

First, you're "missing" an answer to my question: Should a white man say "nigger" in his "artistic" whathehell Oct 2012 #23

You've missed the distinction again. harmonicon Oct 2012 #30

The point in Huck Finn is that the audience is supposed to know he's an unreliable narrator. wickerwoman Oct 2012 #39

As you surely know, there is this big "double standard" on DU when it comes to women. whathehell Oct 2012 #27

If he addresses women as "bitches" or uses that word as a synonym for "woman", whathehell Oct 2012 #12

So... harmonicon Oct 2012 #13

Should whites eliminate "nigger" from their artistic practice? Should straights eliminate "fag"? whathehell Oct 2012 #15

My answer is an unequivocal, loud, proud NO!!!! harmonicon Oct 2012 #19

One person's "art" is another person's "trash". As for your "loud proud" bs, when someone here whathehell Oct 2012 #24

Yep. One person's art is another's trash. harmonicon Oct 2012 #31

Freedom of speech or Hate Speech?...Again, you're in a privileged group, so it's all the same to you whathehell Oct 2012 #36

LOL...Try your "artistic practice" on gays & racial minorities on DU sometime, whathehell Oct 2012 #26

I know what censorship is. harmonicon Oct 2012 #32

Apparently you do not. whathehell Oct 2012 #35

What free speech hero we have here!..Of course, being a white male tend to "encourage" that bravado whathehell Oct 2012 #28

You had to write three replies? harmonicon Oct 2012 #33

I certainly did not "have" to, whathehell Oct 2012 #34

he is as much responsible for all of rap music as La Lioness Priyanka Oct 2012 #18

Who's holding him responsible for all of rap?...According to JoeyBee12, he degrades women himself. . whathehell Oct 2012 #25

you are :So could rap music stop with the B-Word now? La Lioness Priyanka Oct 2012 #29

Are you saying Jay-Z does NOT use the B-word? whathehell Oct 2012 #37

i am saying that you didn't know that and you held him accountable for a group of people La Lioness Priyanka Oct 2012 #40

I didn't state it as fact, but I did make a very reasonable assumption, considering his genre whathehell Oct 2012 #41

that's the problem. you hold him responsible for his "genre", in a way that people dont hold La Lioness Priyanka Oct 2012 #42

No. I don't hold him "responsible" for his genre, I questioned his participation whathehell Oct 2012 #43

my issue is much more than this celebrity. its the way minorities are expected to take La Lioness Priyanka Oct 2012 #44

My issue is the way women are expected to take being demeaned whathehell Oct 2012 #45

one bigotry doesn't justify the other. La Lioness Priyanka Oct 2012 #47

No it doesn't. It seems You and Jay-Z need to learn that.. whathehell Oct 2012 #54

Let's wrap this up in a nutshell, shall we. William769 Oct 2012 #48

Thankyou, William Vanje Oct 2012 #51

Oh yes, lets.. whathehell Oct 2012 #55

As you wish. William769 Oct 2012 #56

Support your call. Poster conflated the issues disruptively, persistently. pinto Oct 2012 #57

Thanks. William769 Oct 2012 #58

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That's good, but i still wish he would stop using bitch as joeybee12 Oct 2012 #10

Yes, and he'll be a Bigot until he does. As The Nation's Katha Pollitt says: "Misogyny is the last whathehell Oct 2012 #16

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