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racaulk

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5. Thank you for saying this. All of it.

Wed Dec 28, 2011, 08:36 PM

Dec 2011

And although the poster in question was an obvious disruptor who has since been banned, that is really irrelevant to this discussion. What is relevant is the jury's decision to leave this post alone and the justifications of those four jurors for making that decision. And that elicits a continued conversation about the issue even after the banishment of that user.

This was a complete and utter failure of the jury system, IMHO, and it will happen again. The question is, what can we do about it? The fact that there is no process to appeal a jury's decision is an incredible and glaring weakness in this new system of self-moderation. If homophobic jurors are adjudicating homophobic posts, then that's a big fucking problem!

This absolutely stinks, and it stinks all the way to the top.

K&R!

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Stinking elephant carcass in the room. 50% of that jury was apparently comprised of homophobic, [View all] Zorra Dec 2011 OP

This is a TOS violation - did you report it as such? enlightenment Dec 2011 #1

This was sent in as a TOS violation and the poster was banned. William769 Dec 2011 #2

It's been tossed. But I posted this because it needs to be said. Zorra Dec 2011 #3

If we can't feel safe to discuss these issues here HillWilliam Dec 2011 #10

Try a pinned thread in this forum - Ms. Toad Dec 2011 #31

The good news is, juries aside, our other systems worked to deal with it. Ian David Dec 2011 #24

"it-getters" ! A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2011 #25

Credit to Stephen Colbert for coining that phrase. n/t Ian David Dec 2011 #41

It illustrates the importance Ms. Toad Dec 2011 #29

I do understand. enlightenment Dec 2011 #32

Thanks. Zorra Dec 2011 #33

I have to admit... Neoma Dec 2011 #4

Thank you for saying this. All of it. racaulk Dec 2011 #5

Yes. A DU jury letting a post like that stand speaks volumes. Zorra Dec 2011 #22

In some ways I respect the booted poster more than the "Leave It Alone" jury members. DURHAM D Dec 2011 #6

If I understand the new process correctly HillWilliam Dec 2011 #9

I'll hope with you. DURHAM D Dec 2011 #16

I would tend to think admins could see recs tammywammy Dec 2011 #35

Everyone can see recs here. Ms. Toad Dec 2011 #36

Edited - I see what you're saying. tammywammy Dec 2011 #37

I was angry about the jury response to that post too, so I alerted again and checked the TOS box. yardwork Dec 2011 #7

This happened this evening. William769 Dec 2011 #8

I'll say this HillWilliam Dec 2011 #12

Whenever a person is banned since I am on the MIR team I get a notice William769 Dec 2011 #14

I noticed you were on top of those that are banned. DURHAM D Dec 2011 #18

The MIR Team rotates every 90 days. William769 Dec 2011 #19

That is what I am observing, too. The homophobes are getting noticed by admins for the first time. yardwork Dec 2011 #15

Thumbs up to the "keep talking". DURHAM D Dec 2011 #13

Because of your post the other day, I saw the offending post and alerted on it. yardwork Dec 2011 #17

I think the Host/SOP setup works and MIRT/TOS alerts work stevenleser Dec 2011 #21

I'm not sure that a preponderance of DU disagrees with you. yardwork Dec 2011 #23

You wouldnt believe the abuse I get when I raise these issues in Meta stevenleser Dec 2011 #27

Not much willingness in this forum, either. I tried, because I could see it coming. Ms. Toad Dec 2011 #28

+1 Zorra Dec 2011 #26

Looks like we've all arrived at the same place HillWilliam Dec 2011 #20

I saw that too mitchtv Dec 2011 #11

I thought "WOW! Zorra was quick!" Here's why: Behind the Aegis Dec 2011 #30

Perhaps some tweaks to the Jury system dickthegrouch Dec 2011 #34

In regards to the whole issue here... Fearless Dec 2011 #38

I have mixed feelings. Ms. Toad Dec 2011 #39

I absolutely agree about bouncing repeat offenders... Fearless Dec 2011 #40

I'll bet if you do a search on my name Ms. Toad Dec 2011 #42