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yardwork

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14. Ok. Here's some. As you can see they persist in claiming that I'm ignoring white bigots.
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 07:42 PM
Jun 2013

They seem undeterred by my rude accusation that they're astroturfing for NOM, and persist in the fiction that I've attacked Michele Obama for something (link?) while ignoring white male bigots (????). Anybody who knows me might find this rather amusing.....


Scootaloo
Re: Re: Would just like to know...

What is NOM?

Who / whatever it is, no. I'm simply trying to figure out what you would call such a situation, since you apparently don't like having it called racist or misogynist.

Michelle Obama is simply not a valid target for such "activism." She has diddly-squat to do with it, and the most she can offer one way or another is her own personal opinion - which she has done: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#LGBT_rights

So why go after her? Why advocate heckling her? Why do so while turning a blind eye to white male lawmakers causing the problem? Do you see the problem here? Can you see the problem here? Can it sink through your head where the real, actual "double standard" is? That white men should be immune from liability and criticism for their anti-gay advocacy, legislation, judgements, and execution of laws, but it's fair, admirable, and laudable to give a heap of shit to a black woman with no such authority over the issue despite her stated support for your own position?

You want to avoid this by ludicrously saying I'm claiming all LGBT DU'ers are racists. I wasn't aware you were an elected spokesperson for all of them, but even if you were, I rather doubt most, or even many of DU's LGBT community are of the opinion that it's awesome to attack a black woman who is an ally, while ignoring the white male lawmakers who are the problem. It seems to be a belief that is exclusive to a few posters in particular rather than the group as a whole.

But as I said, I doubt we're likely to crack each other's shells on this.


> Does NOM give overtime pay when you send unsolicited PMs to people you're attempting to astroturf?
>
> > If a person holds that ignoring anti-gay white male legislators in favor of going after a black woman who holds no control or authority over civil rights legislation or decisions, what exactly would you call such a person?
> >
> > I've got no idea at all what "every LGBT DU'er" thinks or feels (I suspect you don't, either), but I know that any person who maintains the above is probably both a racist and a misogynist.
> >
> > I did point out one LGBT DU'er posting on that thread is a racist, though for plain reasons I didn't drop names; they know who they are from context. I've had the ill privilege of seeing the offsite posts to prove it without a doubt.
> >
> > At any rate. I doubt either of us will scratch the enamel of certainty held by the other. So... see you 'round I guess.

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Thanks for posting that link and comment LonePirate Jun 2013 #1
And I'm continuing to get hateful PMs filled with lies and accusations. yardwork Jun 2013 #3
Alert on them.n/t QC Jun 2013 #4
Snort. Oh that will work. yardwork Jun 2013 #5
True. The most hateful and disruptive people on this site QC Jun 2013 #7
Do it anyway. Can't hurt. Fearless Jun 2013 #27
Instead, I responded. One of them backed off. yardwork Jun 2013 #28
I hope it works out! Fearless Jun 2013 #29
I hope you are turning those in. MuseRider Jun 2013 #6
No, I've been responding to them. One of them backed off. yardwork Jun 2013 #12
I know from experience the best way to stop it DURHAM D Jun 2013 #9
Ok. Here's some. As you can see they persist in claiming that I'm ignoring white bigots. yardwork Jun 2013 #14
That is the most pompous crap I have heard in a long time let alone ignorant. William769 Jun 2013 #2
+1000 we can do it Jun 2013 #34
I meant to post last night that your post made me laugh! yardwork Jun 2013 #37
Some people on DU get so overwrought when someone LuvNewcastle Jun 2013 #8
Did anybody criticize Obama on DU today? I didn't. yardwork Jun 2013 #10
I wish it was outsiders but... No. DURHAM D Jun 2013 #11
Yep. They are trying hard, again, to make divisions. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #15
Check out the PMs I just posted in this thread. Typical script from NOM. yardwork Jun 2013 #17
Pardon my ignorance, but what is NOM? LuvNewcastle Jun 2013 #19
National Organization for Marriage, gay hating, racist liars of the worst kind Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #20
National Organization for Marriage, a front for groups opposed to equal marriage for gays. yardwork Jun 2013 #22
You know, it's funny to me that some people on this site LuvNewcastle Jun 2013 #25
You still have time. AndyA Jun 2013 #24
Yes, I just saw that. Bastards. yardwork Jun 2013 #26
In all fairness, though, the very same thing would happen QC Jun 2013 #18
wrong post we can do it Jun 2013 #33
Ah the same poster says we have 'plenty of rights'. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #13
As in, we have enough rights. More than enough. yardwork Jun 2013 #16
Of course, not as many as real people like the poster, but plenty. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #21
NOM's contributions are down. The Mormons seem to have pulled their support. yardwork Jun 2013 #23
This explains the sluggish, outsoursed feeling to so many of the attempts at shit stirring. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #30
Great points. yardwork Jun 2013 #31
I do care about others. and that is BS. we can do it Jun 2013 #32
I know it is b.s. I didn't write it. yardwork Jun 2013 #35
Sorry, then, it was kind of hard to tell what you meant. we can do it Jun 2013 #38
Just click on the link I provided and you'll see the original post. yardwork Jun 2013 #39
I'd like the right to be who I am and not get beaten up or worse... nt uriel1972 Jun 2013 #36
Exactly. Apparently some people still don't get this. yardwork Jun 2013 #40
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