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Warpy

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5. I guess some people just have huge blind spots

Reply to La Lioness Priyanka (Original post)

Tue Feb 7, 2012, 09:33 PM

Feb 2012

and if they can't understand something (like why same sex people might be attracted to each other instead of the opposite sex or why some people feel like they were born into the wrong sex body), they reject the notion completely.

We see the same thing with mental health issues. Why don't you just snap out of it? Why can't you just ignore the voices?

Some folks just can't step outside themselves enough to understand that other folks are constructed differently. We can't change them any more than we can give them a transfusion of empathy.

(and NO, I'm not equating gender issues with mental health problems. It's just an illustration of another way people are unable to deal with the fact that everybody is not just like them)

We can only alert. And most of us do.

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Whats with the transphobia and the defense of transphobia on du today? [View all] La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 OP

I think we have a lot of "visitors." They're getting desperate. Don't worry, they'll be monmouth Feb 2012 #1

They all aren't "visitors" obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #3

One person is blocked from this group want to take a guess? William769 Feb 2012 #2

It's very sad and pathetic tammywammy Feb 2012 #4

I completely agree - very sad and pathetic. Initech Feb 2012 #62

I guess some people just have huge blind spots Warpy Feb 2012 #5

Let's keep the discussion civil... Fearless Feb 2012 #6

Off topic but important - DURHAM D Feb 2012 #24

i think both of you are right. Lesbians did get shunned when the gay rights movement began La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 #25

In terms of whether anyone actively excluded any particular group... Fearless Feb 2012 #26

So let us start here - DURHAM D Feb 2012 #27

An excellent point. "Don't assign them other motivations." yardwork Feb 2012 #29

+1 obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #30

There ya go. Vanje Feb 2012 #66

That I definitely agree with. Fearless Feb 2012 #81

To think of people solely based on their actions foregoes the human faculty of empathy. Fearless Feb 2012 #82

I took D's post to mean essentially what you are saying. yardwork Feb 2012 #83

Perhaps we are talking about opposite situations? Fearless Feb 2012 #85

I don't know. I can only say how I reacted to the suggestion. yardwork Feb 2012 #86

Backing you up on all those facts. yardwork Feb 2012 #28

I think some of it is just plain ignorance justiceischeap Feb 2012 #7

+1! Fearless Feb 2012 #8

Some people you just cannot engage with justiceischeap Feb 2012 #9

I think A LOT of us have dads like that... Fearless Feb 2012 #10

The poster in question will out and out tell you they will post whatever they want Jamastiene Feb 2012 #16

+10,000 La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 #17

Some of it seemed to be transphobic trollery...it's the defense of it that has me confused. Starry Messenger Feb 2012 #11

I think the defense boils down to what happened here a month ago justiceischeap Feb 2012 #12

I think so. Starry Messenger Feb 2012 #13

Can I see a link to the transphobic post(s)? nt ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #14

here was the original post. which was bad enough La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 #15

OK. There is some strong language in that post and some of the following posts. ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #18

even when our interests are not aligned, its not ok to make or defend bigoted comments La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 #19

I think Meta is full of how posters "interpreted" the posts obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #20

Which thread in Meta do you feel most accurately represents your feelings on this issue? ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #21

I think this should answer your questions justiceischeap Feb 2012 #22

This is only one thread obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #23

Absolutely no surprise at all to see one username. Occulus Feb 2012 #31

Well, first of all... TeeYiYi Feb 2012 #32

incidentally feldspar claimed that she and sarabellum were partners La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 #33

I can't imagine... TeeYiYi Feb 2012 #34

Sera Bellum is an active poster obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #36

that is really trans-phobic. La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 #38

Yeah, I read it and actually gasped aloud obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #40

I just asked the poster why they identify that way. yardwork Feb 2012 #42

I was going to obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #43

I'm sure that my post will be alerted on and screamed at. yardwork Feb 2012 #46

lol obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #47

Sera Bellum wasn't PRRed, she just posted in teh Feminists Group obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #35

sara bellum is still here? TeeYiYi Feb 2012 #37

Oh, and... TeeYiYi Feb 2012 #39

people who have bigoted against transgender people talk like that (and robots) La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 #41

Wow... TeeYiYi Feb 2012 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author yardwork Feb 2012 #45

I just checked... TeeYiYi Feb 2012 #48

She was reinstated hours after she was banned. There was a thread about it at the time. yardwork Feb 2012 #51

I have to agree... TeeYiYi Feb 2012 #55

gender is always assigned at birth. its how it gets on your birth certificate La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 #59

I understand what you're saying... TeeYiYi Feb 2012 #61

On DU2 sera bellum was TakesAVillage_People Morning Dew Feb 2012 #49

Is it possible that Sera Bellum, Feldspar, etc. justiceischeap Feb 2012 #50

I PPR that poster for that reason and a couple of others resons. William769 Feb 2012 #52

I think you are correct... TeeYiYi Feb 2012 #76

EarlG terminated the troll today. yardwork Feb 2012 #118

It's looking... TeeYiYi Feb 2012 #53

Just found this about FAAB justiceischeap Feb 2012 #54

But the poster says that she and her partner identify as lesbians. FAAB lesbians, she said. yardwork Feb 2012 #56

There are... TeeYiYi Feb 2012 #58

Ok, I've censored myself twice because I am really trying not to jump to any conclusions. yardwork Feb 2012 #64

My understanding... TeeYiYi Feb 2012 #68

Most of my straight male friends wish they were lesbians obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #73

I'm sure its because of the sensible shoes! Vanje Feb 2012 #75

Actually, I don't think they like the sensible shoes, Vanje. I think they deplore them! yardwork Feb 2012 #77

lol obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #79

Interesting... TeeYiYi Feb 2012 #57

IMO this is like some one who claims there is nothing wrong in having white pride La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 #60

This message was self-deleted by its author yardwork Feb 2012 #63

That is how this sounds to me. yardwork Feb 2012 #65

Not surprised the term was used wrong obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #72

My opinion? obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #70

I don't know if they are. Admin could check IP numbers but Morning Dew Feb 2012 #87

No problem! justiceischeap Feb 2012 #88

here's another one: foo_bar Feb 2012 #89

I don't think it's pro-masculine. The poster seems to be using FAAB in a different way than usual. yardwork Feb 2012 #90

I was going by "The feminine has absolutely nothing to do with feminism or Women�s Liberation ... foo_bar Feb 2012 #91

That's a logical interpretation. Another possibility is word salad. If you follow me. yardwork Feb 2012 #92

Yup... TeeYiYi Feb 2012 #93

It's a CC Feminist Parody obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #94

if that's the case, they seem to have researched the part foo_bar Feb 2012 #95

I think the history of it obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #97

Interesting -- thanks! obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #71

Sarabellum Vanje Feb 2012 #67

I'll do it for you. William769 Feb 2012 #69

I do! Vanje Feb 2012 #74

That's not very polite, is it. Not very polite at all. Things that make you go hmmmmmmm....... yardwork Feb 2012 #78

Are you saying that there should be no discussion of lesbian issues Remember Me Feb 2012 #96

I think that discussion of these issues belongs in both this group and the feminist group. yardwork Feb 2012 #99

Is is cold up there north of the border? nt DURHAM D Feb 2012 #100

??? The only border I'm north of Remember Me Feb 2012 #102

iverglas is also north of that border CreekDog Feb 2012 #104

Yeah, but it's not the ONLY border she's north of. Remember Me Feb 2012 #106

well you know more about where she lives than i do CreekDog Feb 2012 #108

ROFLMAO! William769 Feb 2012 #109

oh my obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #110

Canada is all I know. Remember Me Feb 2012 #111

"She is way smarter, better educated, younger and richer than I am." Shining Jack Feb 2012 #105

Are you saying that a toad is smarter, better educated, etc. than I am? Remember Me Feb 2012 #107

Ahem...don't bring me into this skirmish. n/t Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #114

lol...You can pick your friends... TeeYiYi Feb 2012 #117

So why are you ignoring my questions about your post? Remember Me Feb 2012 #119

This message was self-deleted by its author William769 Feb 2012 #121

Here you go Remember Me... TeeYiYi Feb 2012 #123

Let me introduce you Remember Me Feb 2012 #126

ewwww. n/t Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #120

Why would you jump to the conclusion that anybody thinks that you are an Iverglas sock puppet? yardwork Feb 2012 #112

I'm flattered that we seem to be the talk of the town. William769 Feb 2012 #101

Are you? Remember Me Feb 2012 #103

Some people need to be educated... jumptheshadow Feb 2012 #80

It's been a good day on DU, on the whole. Lots of good discussion going on. yardwork Feb 2012 #84

Hosts the alert I sent has nothing to do with the OP. William769 Feb 2012 #98

The troll has finally been tossed from DU. yardwork Feb 2012 #113

Oh wow,... TeeYiYi Feb 2012 #115

This message was self-deleted by its author William769 Feb 2012 #116

Good to hear! Fearless Feb 2012 #122

Which one?! Behind the Aegis Feb 2012 #124

Fantastic. Starry Messenger Feb 2012 #125