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Ms. Toad

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4. I agree that is why the thread was closed
Sun Dec 11, 2011, 09:01 PM
Dec 2011

And that is precisely my concern.

But, assuming that I am wrong and those running the show really do believe it off topic, we need to be clearer about the purpose of the group. "Of interest to the LGBT community" is a pretty broad purpose.

If our hosts do not have clear guidelines about how to handle the disparate views of whether a topic is or is not of interest to the LGBT community we are going to burn out hosts out very quickly.

Authors will, as I did, correspond with the locking host asking for explanations. That involved a considerable amount of HillWilliam's time and mine, and that of the other hosts consulted.

I am in process/structure building mode right now - it is not a substantive topic in which I am emotionally invested. My reaction, when I discovered my thread was locked, was Huh? How on earth is a thread talking about the treatment of LGBT DUers off topic in the DU LGBT group? That is still my reaction.

Had this been a contentious issue within in our community, and the subject of a robust substantive discussion that was locked because of an alert (or more than one) by someone who found the discussion uncomfortable, I suspect the discussions (in addition to just being time consuming) would not have been pretty.

Our hosts need to be able to clearly articulate why a topic is not of interest to the LGBT community (i.e. off topic) - particularly when there is broad participation in a thread that is expressly about our community. If we don't give them the tools to do that, we are leaving them vulnerable to allegations of playing favorites, closing threads based on the host's level of comfort with challenging discussions, etc.

Tools might include:
Narrowing - or better articulating - the purpose of the group

Providing a list of the kinds of topics which are of interest to the LGBT community

Providing a list of the kinds of topics that are not of interest to the LGBT community

Carving out discussions from the purpose that we decide (preferably as a group) are not in our best interest to have right now - and identifying them as carve-outs from the purpose in the statement of purpose.

Setting out guidelines about what do when there is a clear public expression of interest in an LGBT specific topic (making the discussion clearly within the purpose of the group) but a private expression of disinterest (the alert(s))

Expressly permitting the host to lock threads for reasons other than being off topic (and to be able to give that different reason in the public locking explanations)

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I really want to see you contribute more to DU. xchrom Dec 2011 #1
Agreed. William769 Dec 2011 #2
Did you vote to close the thread - Ms. Toad Dec 2011 #7
I said in my reply I voted to close it. xchrom Dec 2011 #13
My understanding in DU3 Ms. Toad Dec 2011 #17
A better description of what the LGBT forum should be for may be of help as well... Fearless Dec 2011 #18
Maybe I can be a bit clearer Ms. Toad Dec 2011 #21
There seems to be sensitivity right now to any perceived criticism of DU3. I'm taking a wait and see yardwork Dec 2011 #3
I agree that is why the thread was closed Ms. Toad Dec 2011 #4
It's not clear to me who made the decision to lock and how many were involved in the discussion. yardwork Dec 2011 #5
Totally agree. DURHAM D Dec 2011 #6
It takes a bit to get used to. Ms. Toad Dec 2011 #10
Right now I don't believe there are any. Ms. Toad Dec 2011 #8
HillWilliam is a great guy and I have total trust in him, but I don't know what is going on. yardwork Dec 2011 #9
When we went live at all hosts were removed. William769 Dec 2011 #11
Which is a bit odd Ms. Toad Dec 2011 #12
That's a good question! I think that the problem is that a lot is left up to descretion... Fearless Dec 2011 #14
It wasn't the old system that was broken. Pab Sungenis Dec 2011 #15
In theory yes, but... Fearless Dec 2011 #16
Discretion is the challenge Ms. Toad Dec 2011 #19
Indeed. For instance... Fearless Dec 2011 #20
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