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Lisa D

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28. Your post reminded me of a speech
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 05:52 PM
Feb 2012

Last edited Thu Feb 16, 2012, 03:40 AM - Edit history (1)

Frances McDormand gave in the movie Something's Gotta Give. Her character, Zoe, is a womens' studies professor at a university and she's fascinated that 63 year old Jack Nicholson was dating her 20-something niece, Marin, rather than a woman like Erica, an interesting, successful woman nearer his own age.

Zoe: "This is really fascinating, what's going on at this table. Let's take you and Erica. You've been around the block a few times. What are you, around 60? 63. Fantastic! Never married, which as we know, if you were a woman, would be a curse. You'd be an old maid, a spinster. Blah, blah, blah. So instead of pitying you, they write an article about you. Celebrate your never marrying. You’re elusive and ungettable, a real catch.
Then, there’s my gorgeous sister here. Look at her. She is so accomplished. Most successful female playwright since who? Lillian Hellmann? She’s over 50, divorced, and she sits in night after night after night because available guys her age want something—forgive me, they want somebody that looks like Marin. The over-50 dating scene is geared towards men leaving older women out. And as a result, the women become more and more productive and therefore, more and more interesting. Which, in turn, makes them even less desirable because as we all know, men— especially older men— are threatened and afraid of productive, interesting women. It is just so clear! Single older women as a demographic are about as fucked a group as can ever exist."

Maybe the anger and hostility from men that you talked about in your post is born of fear, because they're threatened by the power of older women.

Thoughts?

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Invisible Women [View all] OKNancy Feb 2012 OP
I'm 53 and for the most part I don't feel bad about it at all notadmblnd Feb 2012 #1
Yes, and NO HockeyMom Feb 2012 #2
I know how you feel all american girl Feb 2012 #5
"Is your Mommy home?" HockeyMom Feb 2012 #8
For me it was like some power had been taken away from me OKNancy Feb 2012 #3
that's exactly how I've felt zazen Feb 2012 #11
I am 63 and a bit older than you HockeyMom Feb 2012 #4
it's embarrassing to admit that some days this prospect is terrifying zazen Feb 2012 #6
attractive older women are called "handsome" OKNancy Feb 2012 #7
hah! yes, it's almost equestrian or something zazen Feb 2012 #9
that's funny, because I used to say I could wait to get old and be eccentric OKNancy Feb 2012 #15
Honestly I feel MORE empowered as a older women HockeyMom Feb 2012 #10
that's inspiring! n/t zazen Feb 2012 #14
actually, do you 40-50-somethings seem to elicit new male resentment? zazen Feb 2012 #12
That's always happened. redqueen Feb 2012 #21
Your post reminded me of a speech Lisa D Feb 2012 #28
As time goes on, we get more and more invisible. It's weird. Warpy Feb 2012 #13
you are active in the cooking and baking group OKNancy Feb 2012 #16
Not when THEY get sick HockeyMom Feb 2012 #17
When you're young, it's so easy to rely on your looks Matariki Feb 2012 #18
Well, I don't think it as easy as all that OKNancy Feb 2012 #19
ie - you and the author of the blog *aren't* invisible. Matariki Feb 2012 #20
This is why I went on such a tear about Miss Representation. redqueen Feb 2012 #22
Oh, and I also wanted to share this here, as it is related. redqueen Feb 2012 #23
that's pretty much on the same topic OKNancy Feb 2012 #24
I like my invisibility too The empressof all Feb 2012 #25
Well, minus the menopause stuff, yeah :) redqueen Feb 2012 #26
Speaking of menopause OKNancy Feb 2012 #27
I got to go through it twice Irishonly Feb 2012 #30
I don't mind being invisible most of the time Irishonly Feb 2012 #29
If I dress like a tart I can still attract attention, but I prefer kestrel91316 Feb 2012 #31
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