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MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 01:47 PM Feb 2012

Since I grew up in the 60s, I think the whole idea [View all]

of feminists as "man-haters" was a construct of men who were threatened in some way by any feminism at all. I don't ever remember any sense that feminists hated men, and I have known many feminists. I do remember a lot of men who weren't self-confident enough to accept that women were 100% equal, and who railed against any feminism or semblance of it they saw.

It was inaccurate then and it's inaccurate now. It's another example of men attempting to define a women's movement instead of accepting the definition of the women themselves. I never felt that was ever an aspect of feminism.

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my ex-- with whom I remain close friends... mike_c Feb 2012 #1
i am afraid seabeyond Feb 2012 #5
I grew up in the 60s too. MarianJack Feb 2012 #2
hey.... seabeyond Feb 2012 #6
She was a great lady. MarianJack Feb 2012 #11
The radical notion that women are actually people tavalon Feb 2012 #62
As I said, tavalon,... MarianJack Feb 2012 #64
Actually, I knew that, but I've always felt a resonance with it. tavalon Feb 2012 #65
You know, tavalon, what you say remonds me... MarianJack Feb 2012 #66
that you MM. and all the men and boys in my life would certainly agree. nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #3
What about separatist feminists? redqueen Feb 2012 #4
one could also ask iverglas Feb 2012 #7
This is what I don't get... redqueen Feb 2012 #10
Let me tell you my story LiberalEsto Feb 2012 #18
How very odd. redqueen Feb 2012 #19
This was a predominantly gay women's meeting LiberalEsto Feb 2012 #22
Aha, now it makes sense. redqueen Feb 2012 #23
"N.O.W. was hijacked by women who hated other women" Scout Feb 2012 #20
this is the interesting paradox iverglas Feb 2012 #21
Wow. Just wow. CrispyQ Feb 2012 #67
I have no doubt that there are some women who hate some men. MineralMan Feb 2012 #9
Hah! I nearly typed that myself in my reply... redqueen Feb 2012 #12
Ever heard Ice T's song "Big Gun"? ismnotwasm Feb 2012 #74
And some of the so-called hatred that may exist is really Remember Me Feb 2012 #46
well about Dworkin DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #51
agreed. nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #52
Personally ismnotwasm Feb 2012 #75
That's your opinion DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #77
I don't see how anyone could like ismnotwasm Feb 2012 #78
Well played milady, and game on. DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #80
I have actually known a few kdmorris Feb 2012 #8
There are certainly reasons for individual women to hate or fear MineralMan Feb 2012 #13
I know women like that too LiberalEsto Feb 2012 #42
Me too! kdmorris Feb 2012 #50
There was a period, collegewise, where all ills, genderwise, were the fault of men. WingDinger Feb 2012 #14
We are all in this together. seabeyond Feb 2012 #15
++ This is a universal truth cbrer Feb 2012 #43
so true... hey, seabeyond Feb 2012 #44
This is a really thoughtful and profound comment MadrasT Feb 2012 #27
Madras, if you've ever said, Remember Me Feb 2012 #48
A VERY nice, even powerful post Remember Me Feb 2012 #47
You are right about one thing. CrispyQ Feb 2012 #68
What's bad is that even in these Texasgal Feb 2012 #16
I'm not sure if this is accurate across the board, but it MineralMan Feb 2012 #17
I didn't say across the board. Texasgal Feb 2012 #26
The amount of overt and covert sexism on DU has always amazed me and efhmc Feb 2012 #79
yes, exactly a way to shame and shut you up. my boys laugh. we joke about it in the house seabeyond Feb 2012 #24
I'm a feminist and fought hard for the ERA. I never hated men nor did I give them up! sinkingfeeling Feb 2012 #25
I would consider my wife a feminist. She just calls herself just a lady however. Broderick Feb 2012 #28
i dont know that seabeyond Feb 2012 #29
My mother passed quite some years ago. Broderick Feb 2012 #30
not so hard, i dont think seabeyond Feb 2012 #32
Oh so familiar Broderick Feb 2012 #57
+1 CrispyQ Feb 2012 #69
My experience was different. Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #31
that is an interesting perspective.... seabeyond Feb 2012 #33
My wife told me she ran into a small group like that once. ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #34
well.... and what i learned last week, lol seabeyond Feb 2012 #35
Post the good bits. nt ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #36
i have posted a couple articles i enjoyed. seabeyond Feb 2012 #39
Was the same subgroup 40+ years ago unc70 Feb 2012 #71
Yeah, I believe it comes from their very deep woundedness Remember Me Feb 2012 #49
Would you say, as a DU man, that mistertrickster Feb 2012 #37
cat fights, fur flying men having a jolly old time.... at the expense of seabeyond Feb 2012 #40
It was a yes or no question . . . mistertrickster Feb 2012 #41
emphatically, YES du men agree with the political feminist goals. emphatically, YES. nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #45
Yes, I think so, but then, I don't know most DUers very well. MineralMan Feb 2012 #56
Thank you for a thread acknowledging the prevalence of this idiot stereotype. BlueIris Feb 2012 #38
Let me offer this DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #53
exactly... the consternation and defensiveness with the first reported rape seabeyond Feb 2012 #55
You know I was not going there. BUT DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #58
sure. but that is often times the hard part of being pragmatic and speaking out seabeyond Feb 2012 #60
"no need to defend, excuse, or dismiss." DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #59
exactly. this is what i am talking about. nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #61
I think the hard wiring is so different BlueToTheBone Feb 2012 #54
Men who said that preferred being hated to being ignored n/t eridani Feb 2012 #63
~lol! CrispyQ Feb 2012 #70
You know ismnotwasm Feb 2012 #72
Thanks, but not even I love all my posts. MineralMan Feb 2012 #76
You know ismnotwasm Feb 2012 #73
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