Covid Can Cause Ongoing Damage to Heart, Lungs and Kidneys, Study Finds: Long Covid

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1. Supposedly if we're vaxxed, we're immune from severe illness, so we can party -- well, maybe not

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I don't know if this is just a Minnesota thing -- but

COVID-19 in MN: Caseload rise may be leveling off; ICU needs low, stable, by Craig Helmstetter, 5/6/22
https://www.mprnews.org/story/2022/05/06/covid19-in-mn-rising-caseloads-may-be-leveling-hospital-needs-stable

The final graph in this week’s update demonstrates both the waning effectiveness of the original vaccination and virulence of the recent omicron strains. Most recently, Minnesotans who are vaccinated are just as likely as those who are unvaccinated to get COVID-19.

On the other hand, unvaccinated Minnesotans remain at least twice as likely to either get hospitalized or die from COVID-19 than is the case among those who are vaccinated. ((but these ratios are shrinking fast -Progree))

Unvaxxed relative to the vaxxed (my read of the graphs, approximate):
Cases: 1X,     Hospitalization: 2X     Deaths: 2.5X



The local Covid bubbly optimistic brigade has long been telling us that if we're vaxxed, (or vaxxed and boosted), we're virtually immune from severe disease, with only a slight risk equivalent to being in a car or going outside to get the newspaper or whatever.

Well, the severe disease risk is narrowing between unvaxxed and vaxxed. I for one don't feel "immune" when my risk of hospitalization is "only" 1/2 that of an unvaxxed person, and my risk of death is "only" 40% of that of an unvaxxed person. But maybe its just my neurotic persona and my tendency to worry my pretty little head off about things I know nothing about.

Somebody responded to one of these postings by saying the statistics are skewed because a lot of the unvaxxed have natural immunity due to prior infection .... OK ... well, a large percentage of the vaxxed also have been infected too ... so anyway, what's the "real" ratio? I'm not looking for linkless assertions that the "real" ratios are still "huge", or links to old numbers.

My purpose is not to argue that being vaxxed is not all that much better than being unvaxxed, but rather to assess my own personal risk (how "immune" am I to severe disease), and I'm not sure the arm-waving about natural-immunity unvaxxed is relevant to that. Whatever, the trend in the graph is deteriorating fast in the face of new variants and fading booster effectiveness with time. Even one month ago stats are way out of date.

(I'm weakly vaxxed with single-dose J&J plus double-boosted BTW, age 65-75)

In another thread, someone asserted that Covid deaths in New York state in the current wave are "very low". Well, it's about 8 times as many deaths recently (about 24/day) as traffic deaths (about 3/day) in the state. (Traffic deaths include pedestrians, bicycles, and motorbikes as well as cars and trucks). I guess everyone has their own idea of what "very low" is.

Rant off.