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trotsky

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13. A kid in a neighboring town of mine died from chicken pox.

Thu Jun 7, 2012, 06:13 AM

Jun 2012

My uncle was sterilized by the mumps. He was never able to have children.

My son had the chicken pox vaccine, and then got the chicken pox - but he had maybe a grand total of 5 sores and missed 1 day of school. When I had it, I spent 2 weeks out of school, ran a fever most days, and had sores all over.

I consider vaccines to be a monumental success in the battle against diseases. Right up there with sanitary systems and clean water.

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Opting out of vaccinations could get tougher in California [View all] alp227 Jun 2012 OP

I wonder if part of the problem is trying to "Vaccinize" everything including what used to be villager Jun 2012 #1

+1000!!! FirstLight Jun 2012 #2

Yeah, because it's a great thing to push anti-science nonsense. HuckleB Jun 2012 #16

Post removed Post removed Jun 2012 #18

And once again, science is labeled "Big Pharma." HuckleB Jun 2012 #19

To quote a great TV show... TheMightyFavog Jun 2012 #37

There was morbidity and mortality associated with these illnesses cbayer Jun 2012 #3

Sure, if you don't mind hundreds of children dying every year. TheWraith Jun 2012 #5

What problem? The naturalistic fallacy? alp227 Jun 2012 #6

Those childhood diseases are far from harmless. MineralMan Jun 2012 #7

I don't remember a single kid dying from chicken pox or mumps, actually villager Jun 2012 #9

It's rare, but happens. laconicsax Jun 2012 #10

"Chickenpox Vaccine Loses Effectiveness" villager Jun 2012 #11

Your point is what? laconicsax Jun 2012 #12

I'd respond, but since you're good at putting words in my mouth villager Jun 2012 #20

What words were "put in your mouth?" HuckleB Jun 2012 #22

Hey, HuckleB -- it turns out, I wasn't talking to you! villager Jun 2012 #24

It turns out you made a claim you can't support. HuckleB Jun 2012 #27

Please list what I've made up and what words I've put in your mouth. laconicsax Jun 2012 #25

Please read the article I posted and respond to that, instead of lapsing into "insult mode" villager Jun 2012 #28

The article you posted has zero relevance to the OP or the rest of this thread. laconicsax Jun 2012 #36

Ah -- so you don't read the actual posts (but we knew that), preferring instead your snarky drivel villager Jun 2012 #40

What on Earth are you talking about? laconicsax Jun 2012 #41

Who's "we?" HuckleB Jun 2012 #42

I remember a "statistics teacher" who played the same game. n/t laconicsax Jun 2012 #45

A kid in a neighboring town of mine died from chicken pox. trotsky Jun 2012 #13

Post removed Post removed Jun 2012 #34

Well, I do remember one. MineralMan Jun 2012 #17

What a lovely, progressive attitude. laconicsax Jun 2012 #8

+1 HuckleB Jun 2012 #14

That sounds ominously similar to sadge-virgo Jun 2012 #57

There's a notable difference: laconicsax Jun 2012 #64

What? HuckleB Jun 2012 #15

Good. TheWraith Jun 2012 #4

And yet hearsay and anecdotage dominate the "vaccinate for everything" side of the debate here, too villager Jun 2012 #21

Nope. HuckleB Jun 2012 #23

Oh, I'm sorry. When was the last time your kids had Polio? TheWraith Jun 2012 #26

Post removed Post removed Jun 2012 #29

Nope. HuckleB Jun 2012 #30

Any law to shoot people up will not go down nicely. Fascism pure and simple. caesars things Jun 2012 #31

Putting others at risk because one believes in fairy tales is a good way to describe fascism, IMO. HuckleB Jun 2012 #32

That is very dangerous thinking, my friend. caesars things Jun 2012 #33

Yes, anti-vaccine fairy tales are dangerous. HuckleB Jun 2012 #35

They should have been praying that Skinner wouldn't notice them. laconicsax Jun 2012 #38

Interestingly, I played with puppets with my six-year-old this afternoon. HuckleB Jun 2012 #39

I'm ready to turn this thread back to the scientific mode Celebration Jun 2012 #43

The safety is independently verified through more than one area of research. laconicsax Jun 2012 #46

not what I was looking for Celebration Jun 2012 #47

You mean the studies that show the individual vaccines are safe? laconicsax Jun 2012 #48

my first preference Celebration Jun 2012 #49

That's a nice preference except for the fact that it would be highly unethical. laconicsax Jun 2012 #50

Please prove your last assertion. HuckleB Jun 2012 #51

huh! Celebration Jun 2012 #52

So you've made assertions you can't support. HuckleB Jun 2012 #53

No, that's not what they said. laconicsax Jun 2012 #54

Oh, ok. HuckleB Jun 2012 #55

I'll answer Celebration Jun 2012 #56

In other words, you made a claim that you can't support. HuckleB Jun 2012 #58

tit for tat Celebration Jun 2012 #60

Nice confession. HuckleB Jun 2012 #61

No problem Celebration Jun 2012 #65

I'm certain that you haven't connected the dots. HuckleB Jun 2012 #66

Righto Celebration Jun 2012 #67

Like I wrote, you haven't connected the dots. HuckleB Jun 2012 #68

And you refuse to provide the dots Celebration Jun 2012 #71

I'm not the one who needs to provide proof of anything. HuckleB Jun 2012 #72

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New Book: Your Baby’s Best Shot: Why Vaccines Are Safe and Save Lives HuckleB Jun 2012 #59

Child Immunization Schedule: Why Is It Like That? HuckleB Jun 2012 #62

Anti-Vaccine Rhetoric: When Pro-Safe Is Pro-Misinformation HuckleB Jun 2012 #63

New vaccine-scheduling study deals blow to safety fears HuckleB Jun 2012 #69

Vaccine studies: Examine the evidence HuckleB Jun 2012 #70