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proverbialwisdom

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44. The Slate source brought up Mother Jones writer, Tom Philpott, and so does ThinkProgress.org below.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:28 AM
Oct 2012
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2012/09/are_gmo_foods_safe_opponents_are_skewing_the_science_to_scare_people_.html

...None of this seems to bother Tom Philpott, the popular food blogger for Mother Jones, who writes that Seralini's results "shine a harsh light on the ag-biotech industry's mantra that GMOs have indisputably proven safe to eat."

...I single out Philpott not to pick on him, but because he represents the most reasonable, level-headed voice of the anti-GMO brigade (whose most extreme adherents don white hazmat suits and destroy research plots). The same goes for Grist, which calls the French study "important" and says "it's worth paying attention to what Seralini has done.”


http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/09/14/850321/romney-monsanto/?mobile=nc

Romney And Bain Boosted Agriculture Giant Monsanto In Spite Of Toxic Past
By Aviva Shen on Sep 14, 2012 at 11:37 am


Biotechnology firm Monsanto Company, which currently owns most of the patents for America’s staple crops, is already cozy with American lawmakers. A new Nation report, however, indicates that “a very old friend in a very high place” may usher in the corporation’s most prosperous years yet.

The Nation’s investigative report ( http://www.thenation.com/article/169885/mitt-romney-monsanto-man# ) has uncovered how Mitt Romney personally helped Monsanto shed its string of toxic chemical-related scandals and reinvent itself to dominate American agriculture. Monsanto, an early Bain & Company client, was so impressed with Romney that they started bypassing his superiors to deal with him directly. Romney’s close relationship with then CEO John Hanley prompted his boss to create Bain Capital to keep Romney from leaving and taking their largest consulting client with him.

From 1977 to 1985, Romney helped navigate Monsanto through very rocky waters. The agribusiness was flooded with lawsuits after Congress banned the toxic coolant PCBs, a Monsanto product that has been linked to cancer and neurological disorders. At the same time, Monsanto’s Agent Orange toxin, used to defoliate jungles in the Vietnam War, was linked to the contamination of millions of Vietnamese and American soldiers and had been dubbed “the largest chemical warfare operation” in human history.

Tom Philpott at Mother Jones dug up a 2002 article ( http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2012/09/romney-monsanto-bain ) describing Monsanto’s attempts to hide its toxic waste disposal even after managers discovered fish “spurting blood and shedding skin” within 10 seconds of the PCB dump:
Monsanto Co. routinely discharged toxic waste into a west Anniston [Alabama] creek and dumped millions of pounds of PCBs into oozing open-pit landfills. And thousands of pages of Monsanto documents—many emblazoned with warnings such as “CONFIDENTIAL: Read and Destroy”—show that for decades, the corporate giant concealed what it did and what it knew.

Faced with costly litigation, Monsanto relied on Romney to create their new public image — one that did not involve poisoning soldiers or dumping chemicals in rivers:
Dr. Earl Beaver, who was Monsanto’s waste director during the Bain period, says that Bain was certainly “aware” of the “PCB and dioxin scandals” because they created “a negative public perception that was costing the company money.” So Bain recommended focusing “on the businesses that didn’t have those perceptions,” Beaver recalls, starting with “life science products that were biologically based,” including genetically engineered crops, as well as Roundup, the hugely profitable weed-killer. “These were the products that Bain gave their go-ahead to,” Beaver contends, noting that Romney was a key player, “reviewing the data collected by other people and developing alternatives,” talking mostly to “the higher muckety-mucks.”


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BTW, great discussion in the comments of the Slate article.

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2012/09/are_gmo_foods_safe_opponents_are_skewing_the_science_to_scare_people_.single.html

COMMENTS:
Deconstructing Dinner
Keith Kloor's Full Comment titled "No, genetically modified corn won't give you cancer" falls victim to his own allegations.

Kloor lambastes media for reporting on the recent Seralini study and in doing so "legitimizing psuedoscience". Kloor even concludes that the work of Seralini is "scientific distortion". Yet Kloor fails to inquire into who "shredded" the study's credibility and who the "scores of scientists" were who very swiftly sought to discredit the controversial research.

It wouldn't take long to learn that the response to the Seralini study was well orchestrated and heavily funded. The Science Media Centre in particular was one of the key drivers of the anti-Seralini campaign - a 'charitable' organization who seeks to inform the media on important matters of scientific interest. But who funds the SMC? Funders include biotech trade association CropLife, multinational biotech seed giant Syngenta, and the industry's GMO communications arm - the Council for Biotechnology Information. SMC used quotes from ‘experts’ who are heavily invested in pushing GMOs into the food supply. Kloor failed to recognize that the BBC, CBS, Forbes, Discovery News, the Financial Times and The Guardian among others all fell victim to SMC's coordinated campaign to discredit Seralini. Slate is yet another victim having linked directly to the SMC release in the above article. As a journalist, Kloor failed to report on the almost 20 years of similar attacks which have also been well coordinated when any research questioning the safety of GMOs is published.

Kloor further insists that "anti-GMO campaigners have distorted the science on genetically modified foods" yet fails to question whether GMO advocates and industry have done the same?

Where all credit that might go to Kloor gets blown out the window is following his classic error made by GMO advocates when he quotes UC Davis geneticist Pamela Ronald who states, "no adverse health or environmental effects have resulted from commercialization of genetically engineered crops." As a long-time journalist covering this issue, I can confirm without a modicum of doubt, that had Keith Kloor asked Ronald... "Can you point me to the studies which have been tracking the long-term health effects of GMOs since they were first introduced?" There's only one answer she could have given... "no". Why? Because there have been no such studies.

Jon Steinman
Deconstructing Dinner

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The pro-GMO scientists as always are pure as the driven snow. Vincardog Sep 2012 #1
That's not a very scientific attitude. Odin2005 Sep 2012 #3
Neither is this: Chemisse Nov 2012 #56
Naturally. proverbialwisdom Oct 2012 #48
"Don't ask, don't tell." proverbialwisdom Nov 2012 #55
A fine piece that covers a wider swath of the issue from the science standpoint. HuckleB Sep 2012 #2
Kick. HuckleB Oct 2012 #4
+ Infinity! Odin2005 Oct 2012 #5
Not so fast. proverbialwisdom Oct 2012 #6
Nice "sources" you got there. Odin2005 Oct 2012 #7
But, but... HuckleB Oct 2012 #8
My opinion? It's scientist vs. scientist / industry's fading efforts to censor independent research. proverbialwisdom Oct 2012 #10
The scientific consensus is clearly against your opinion. HuckleB Oct 2012 #11
Correct Tumbulu Oct 2012 #14
Nope. HuckleB Oct 2012 #15
Well I personally know 3 professors Tumbulu Oct 2012 #16
Uh huh. HuckleB Oct 2012 #17
Post some data Tumbulu Oct 2012 #19
You keep saying you're waiting, but you're not. HuckleB Oct 2012 #20
This is not a nibble, this is exactly what I want to see Tumbulu Oct 2012 #23
So you admit that you simply haven't bothered to research the issue. HuckleB Oct 2012 #24
Your rudeness is unacceptable Tumbulu Oct 2012 #25
You have been less than honest. HuckleB Oct 2012 #26
What are you talking about? Tumbulu Oct 2012 #28
Wash. Rinse. Repeat. HuckleB Oct 2012 #29
Your tone is so unnecessarily rude Tumbulu Oct 2012 #32
Thanks for continuing to push the usual logical fallacies. HuckleB Oct 2012 #33
HuckleB is always rude. Chemisse Nov 2012 #57
Get a mirror. HuckleB Nov 2012 #60
Which, in your rigid world view, is any post without an authoritarian stamp of approval Chemisse Nov 2012 #62
And the ad hominem nonsense keeps coming. HuckleB Nov 2012 #63
How about these? proverbialwisdom Oct 2012 #9
Youtube version unavailable. proverbialwisdom Oct 2012 #12
If the industry that produces these products wishes Tumbulu Oct 2012 #13
Nice try. HuckleB Oct 2012 #18
The Skeptical Vegan On GMO Labeling HuckleB Oct 2012 #21
A very good piece about GE crops. HuckleB Oct 2012 #22
I think if anything caused tumors it was the mzmolly Oct 2012 #27
I agree completely. Odin2005 Oct 2012 #30
I don't doubt it. mzmolly Oct 2012 #31
The saga of 'Scientist' vs Scientist with and without the benefit of the internet. Oh, snap. proverbialwisdom Oct 2012 #34
Spamming shit sources doesn't work on me. Odin2005 Oct 2012 #35
Short video, perhaps? proverbialwisdom Oct 2012 #40
Please don't push discredited pseudo-science as being equivalent. It's not. HuckleB Oct 2012 #36
Too much reading? Here, I'll it abbreviate for you. proverbialwisdom Oct 2012 #37
You haven't done the reading. HuckleB Oct 2012 #39
Part 1 involves Chesson's role in dismissing the current study. proverbialwisdom Oct 2012 #38
Conspiracy theories are fun, but pointless. HuckleB Oct 2012 #41
Nope, it's scientist vs 'scientist,' as demonstrated. proverbialwisdom Oct 2012 #42
You keep pretending. The consensus does not show that. HuckleB Oct 2012 #43
The Slate source brought up Mother Jones writer, Tom Philpott, and so does ThinkProgress.org below. proverbialwisdom Oct 2012 #44
None of what you post is relevant. HuckleB Oct 2012 #45
Industry scientists. independent scientists? No difference? proverbialwisdom Oct 2012 #46
Red herrings are not relevant. HuckleB Oct 2012 #47
The amount of negative studies not published is sense Oct 2012 #49
LeMonde - GM cancer study academic hits back proverbialwisdom Nov 2012 #50
there are some brave people left in the world n/t Celebration Nov 2012 #51
Bravely pushing BS fictions to advance their own ridiculous careers! HuckleB Nov 2012 #52
Right on schedule, bringing in the corporate view. sense Nov 2012 #53
You seem to think science based view equates to "corporate view." HuckleB Nov 2012 #54
Perhaps it is just a freak coincidence that your opinion is ALWAYS Chemisse Nov 2012 #58
Hogwash. HuckleB Nov 2012 #59
I am impressed! Chemisse Nov 2012 #61
Yeah, uh huh. HuckleB Nov 2012 #64
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