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11. How much sugar was there?
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:24 PM
Nov 2012

The investigator had said it was insignificant, and here it says the placebo was a saline solution--

The chelation therapy used in the TACT trial included infusions of a 500 mL chelation solution containing 3 g of disodium EDTA; 7 g ascorbic acid; 2 mg magnesium chloride; 100 mg procaine hydrochloride; 2,500 U unfractionated heparin; 2 mEq potassium chloride; 840 mg sodium bicarbonate; 250 mg pantothenic acid and 100 mg thiamine; 100 mg pyridoxine; and sterile water to make up 500 mL of solution. The placebo infusion was 500 mL of normal saline. Patients received 40 infusions, each lasting at least 3 hours.


If you can get me some information on amount of sugar, perhaps it would be interesting. Until then, it seems it must have been trace amounts, as it is not mentioned as an ingredient. And people with diabetes can adjust their medications and and food anyway if their blood sugars go off a little.

As for people attacking it because it is unproven, HELLO, that is why they are starting to do studies. Nobody is promoting anything. It is being studied scientically which SHOULD make everyone happy. Apparently it only makes some people happy if the results are what they predict they will be.

By the way, the position paper you are quoting was written before this study was completed.

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Dangerous and expensive and totally unwarranted. trotsky Nov 2012 #1
sounds like you are ignoring the study that came out Celebration Nov 2012 #2
Sorry, I forgot the rule of woo. trotsky Nov 2012 #3
Mayo Clinic trotsky Nov 2012 #4
TIME magazine writeup trotsky Nov 2012 #5
NY Times writeup trotsky Nov 2012 #6
I can also selectively quote Celebration Nov 2012 #7
I totally agree with this part: trotsky Nov 2012 #8
How much sugar was there? Celebration Nov 2012 #11
It's your claim, your preferred study. YOU get the info. trotsky Nov 2012 #15
actually it is YOUR claim Celebration Nov 2012 #17
Nope, that's the claim of the NY Times. trotsky Nov 2012 #20
well it could be Celebration Nov 2012 #21
Write to the New York Times and correct them, then! trotsky Nov 2012 #23
How exactly does Chelation Dorian Gray Nov 2012 #9
Binds to heavy metals in particular. trotsky Nov 2012 #10
except in this case Celebration Nov 2012 #12
If you needed a triple bypass heart surgery Dorian Gray Nov 2012 #13
Did I say that Celebration Nov 2012 #14
Wrong. trotsky Nov 2012 #16
for the last time Celebration Nov 2012 #18
I never said the placebo WAS sugar. I said it contained sugar. trotsky Nov 2012 #19
I guess we'll have to wait until the study is published Celebration Nov 2012 #22
Write to the New York Times and correct them, then! trotsky Nov 2012 #24
those recommendations are the ones I referred to Celebration Nov 2012 #25
Oh, I am quite familiar enough with your history and agenda. trotsky Nov 2012 #27
you are truly in lala land Celebration Nov 2012 #28
Nice insult. trotsky Nov 2012 #29
just STOP Celebration Nov 2012 #30
"Lala land"? trotsky Nov 2012 #31
you are a complete liar, then Celebration Nov 2012 #32
Because you personally have been burned in the past on DU2 for promoting treatments... trotsky Nov 2012 #33
you are the one that made the claim that I am recommending this treatment Celebration Nov 2012 #34
Answer the question and prove me wrong. trotsky Nov 2012 #35
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I'm not asking you to make a recommendation. trotsky Nov 2012 #37
no, no Celebration Nov 2012 #39
You can deny your past behavior all you want. trotsky Nov 2012 #42
As usual Celebration Nov 2012 #44
I'm sorry you chose this path. trotsky Nov 2012 #45
Never put words in my mouth Celebration Nov 2012 #46
I would give you the same advice. trotsky Nov 2012 #47
You know, I've thought about this, and decided I need to apologize. trotsky Nov 2012 #48
thanks for the apology Celebration Nov 2012 #49
Nonetheless, I am relieved to know you agree with me about the dangers of chelation... trotsky Nov 2012 #50
did I say all that? Celebration Nov 2012 #51
Why yes, yes you did. trotsky Nov 2012 #52
Absurd Celebration Nov 2012 #53
You have just finished promoting chelation, and yet you say you didn't? trotsky Nov 2012 #54
Yet more information: trotsky Nov 2012 #26
+1,000,000 ... 000 HuckleB Nov 2012 #41
Nature: Chelation trial results come under fire HuckleB Nov 2012 #38
The Trial to Assess Chelation Therapy: Equivocal as Predicted (Not To Mention Unethical) HuckleB Nov 2012 #40
Goodness, the more information that comes out about this study... trotsky Nov 2012 #43
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