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trotsky

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26. Yet more information:
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:59 AM
Nov 2012
http://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewherper/2012/11/04/civil-war-a-study-says-chelation-might-help-heart-patients-but-doctors-dont-believe-it/

Of the patients who received chelation, 27% had one of the following: a death, a stroke, a heart attack, a stent procedure to open a heart artery, or a hospitalization for chest pain. By comparison, those same events occurred in 30% of patients given placebo. That difference – one in 33 patients not having an “event” – was statistically significant, although just barely so. But most of the difference was due to patients getting fewer stents, with almost no difference in the number of heart attacks, strokes, or deaths.

“Nobody should walk out of this meeting and say chelation therapy prevents deaths,” says Clyde Yancy, a past-president of the AHA and the chief of cardiology at Northwestern Memorial Hospital, who praised the study for trying to answer a tough question. He says that the results are puzzling. “Every time we ask one question, four or five more emerge,” Yancy says.

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The first case report of chelation being used to treat chest pain due to heart problems was published in 1956. But mainstream doctors say there is no reason why the treatment should help heart patients, because heavy metal buildup isn’t a cause of heart disease. And chelation treatments can be harmful, especially when they are given too fast. In 2006, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported on three cases in which a chelating agent killed patients. A two-year-old girl died when being treated for lead poisoning when she was given an adult dose of a chelating agent; a five-year-old boy being with autism went limp and died in a doctor’s office; and a 53-year-old woman who had undergone the treatment three times before died of a cardiac arrhythmia in the office of her naturopathic practitioner. In all three cases, the treatment may have been given too fast, resulting in low calcium levels that caused heart problems.

Despite the risks, chelation has become more popular. Between 2002 and 2007, the number of people using chelation therapy grew by 68% to 111,000 people, according to the NHLBI, despite there being, in the agency’s words, “no evidence as to its safety or efficacy.” Aside from heart disease, the treatment has gained popularity for autism, where the role of heavy metals dovetails with the discredited but popular theory that metal components in vaccines play a role in the disease, and in Lyme disease.


There's an extensive "Reasons for Doubt" section that interested parties should read.

As I mentioned earlier, it's quacks and charlatans who are promoting this dangerous treatment for everything under the sun. There is no magic bullet that cures everything - that kind of claim is standard fare though in alt-med quackery. From Hilda Clark's ZAPPER to this, it's the same thing. This study will now be embraced by those unscrupulous individuals, just as you are doing with it here, to continue to promote this risky procedure.

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Dangerous and expensive and totally unwarranted. trotsky Nov 2012 #1
sounds like you are ignoring the study that came out Celebration Nov 2012 #2
Sorry, I forgot the rule of woo. trotsky Nov 2012 #3
Mayo Clinic trotsky Nov 2012 #4
TIME magazine writeup trotsky Nov 2012 #5
NY Times writeup trotsky Nov 2012 #6
I can also selectively quote Celebration Nov 2012 #7
I totally agree with this part: trotsky Nov 2012 #8
How much sugar was there? Celebration Nov 2012 #11
It's your claim, your preferred study. YOU get the info. trotsky Nov 2012 #15
actually it is YOUR claim Celebration Nov 2012 #17
Nope, that's the claim of the NY Times. trotsky Nov 2012 #20
well it could be Celebration Nov 2012 #21
Write to the New York Times and correct them, then! trotsky Nov 2012 #23
How exactly does Chelation Dorian Gray Nov 2012 #9
Binds to heavy metals in particular. trotsky Nov 2012 #10
except in this case Celebration Nov 2012 #12
If you needed a triple bypass heart surgery Dorian Gray Nov 2012 #13
Did I say that Celebration Nov 2012 #14
Wrong. trotsky Nov 2012 #16
for the last time Celebration Nov 2012 #18
I never said the placebo WAS sugar. I said it contained sugar. trotsky Nov 2012 #19
I guess we'll have to wait until the study is published Celebration Nov 2012 #22
Write to the New York Times and correct them, then! trotsky Nov 2012 #24
those recommendations are the ones I referred to Celebration Nov 2012 #25
Oh, I am quite familiar enough with your history and agenda. trotsky Nov 2012 #27
you are truly in lala land Celebration Nov 2012 #28
Nice insult. trotsky Nov 2012 #29
just STOP Celebration Nov 2012 #30
"Lala land"? trotsky Nov 2012 #31
you are a complete liar, then Celebration Nov 2012 #32
Because you personally have been burned in the past on DU2 for promoting treatments... trotsky Nov 2012 #33
you are the one that made the claim that I am recommending this treatment Celebration Nov 2012 #34
Answer the question and prove me wrong. trotsky Nov 2012 #35
LOL Celebration Nov 2012 #36
I'm not asking you to make a recommendation. trotsky Nov 2012 #37
no, no Celebration Nov 2012 #39
You can deny your past behavior all you want. trotsky Nov 2012 #42
As usual Celebration Nov 2012 #44
I'm sorry you chose this path. trotsky Nov 2012 #45
Never put words in my mouth Celebration Nov 2012 #46
I would give you the same advice. trotsky Nov 2012 #47
You know, I've thought about this, and decided I need to apologize. trotsky Nov 2012 #48
thanks for the apology Celebration Nov 2012 #49
Nonetheless, I am relieved to know you agree with me about the dangers of chelation... trotsky Nov 2012 #50
did I say all that? Celebration Nov 2012 #51
Why yes, yes you did. trotsky Nov 2012 #52
Absurd Celebration Nov 2012 #53
You have just finished promoting chelation, and yet you say you didn't? trotsky Nov 2012 #54
Yet more information: trotsky Nov 2012 #26
+1,000,000 ... 000 HuckleB Nov 2012 #41
Nature: Chelation trial results come under fire HuckleB Nov 2012 #38
The Trial to Assess Chelation Therapy: Equivocal as Predicted (Not To Mention Unethical) HuckleB Nov 2012 #40
Goodness, the more information that comes out about this study... trotsky Nov 2012 #43
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