when do you give up an walk away?

[Old Codger]

1. Judging on that info

A basic rule of thumb for this type of thing comes out to the same as drinking, whenever you are fed up and have had all you can stand.. You cannot save him only he can save him... It is hard but the saying around the tables is let go with love... old cliches abound in AA and Alanon.. you need to take care of you...

Hope you can save yourself and he can save himself... good luck with whatever way you decide to go..


Go to Alanon, go to AA also, I am a 30+ year member of AA, my wife found more encouragement and positive hope at AA meetings, she never went to mine but picked an open group and did for herself.. seems to have worked for her.