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Lydia Leftcoast

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4. A borrowing from French is our use of the object pronouns as emphatics
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 11:01 PM
Dec 2011

Germans will point to a picture of themselves and say, "Das ist ich." "That is I."

In the same situation, Norwegians say, "Det er jeg." "That is I."

French people say, "C'est moi," not "*C'est je."

Generations of English teachers told their students that they should say, "It's I," because that was supposedly "logical."

But ever since the Norman French invaded England, English speakers have said, "It's me."

We also say "Who, me?" where a German would say, "Wer, ich?" "Who, I?"

A French person would say, "Qui, moi?"

English's usage of "do" as a dummy verb is a Welsh influence. Odin2005 Dec 2011 #1
That would be a grammatical substratum. Betty Karlson Dec 2011 #2
A borrowing from French is our use of the object pronouns as emphatics Lydia Leftcoast Dec 2011 #4
And the Italians would say "Sono io" I am I Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #5
English has to some extent been absorbed into the West Romance sprachbund. Odin2005 Jan 2012 #18
That is not exactly right. OldEurope Jun 2015 #29
There is a strong Old Norse adstratum. Odin2005 Jan 2012 #17
Case and gender still survive in English, Lionel Mandrake Aug 2014 #28
In the case of "do you speak English" Welsh doesn't change word order for a question geardaddy Dec 2011 #3
The Celtic languages are awesome. Odin2005 Jan 2012 #19
Yep! geardaddy Jan 2012 #20
P celtic is said to have african syntax refrescanos Jul 2013 #24
Interesting! geardaddy Jul 2013 #25
messed up refrescanos Jul 2013 #26
Two borrowings from Japanese: Lydia Leftcoast Dec 2011 #6
I thought Tycoon was Chinese. pink-o Jan 2012 #7
Typhoon is Chinese geardaddy Jan 2012 #10
That's Interesting. Wolf Frankula Jan 2012 #8
Soughs? IntravenousDemilo Jan 2012 #9
Pidgin geardaddy Jan 2012 #11
brasserie geardaddy Jan 2012 #12
Hindi: Shampoo and Pajamas pink-o Jan 2012 #13
I think Thug comes from Hindi, too. geardaddy Jan 2012 #14
Other words from Arabic A777 Jan 2012 #15
Same with zero, alcohol, algebra, several names of stars (Altair, Betelgeuse), and magazine NuclearDem Jul 2013 #27
"tea" comes from Min-nan (Taiwanese Hokkien) geardaddy Jan 2012 #16
'Boondocks' comes from Tagalog RZM Jan 2012 #21
"Amok" as in "run amok" comes from Malay Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2012 #22
I was going to enter "Amok", you beat me to it.. years ago! vkkv Mar 2016 #30
Spam deleted by MaineDem (MIR Team) bestbagsforu Apr 2012 #23
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