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danriker

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Thu Feb 5, 2015, 03:31 PM Feb 2015

For once I agree with Rand Paul. I also don't think Loretta Lynch should be Attorney General [View all]

Cross-posted at DailyKos.com, progressiveamericanthought.blogspot.com and danriker.blogspot.com

By Dan Riker

I have more reasons than Paul cited. First, what he talked about.

He is opposing her because she supports the current laws allowing civil forfeiture of property when the owner has not been convicted of a crime. The Huffington Post reports that in her role as U.S. Attorney in New York she has seized about $13 million in private property. Her office once held $447,000 in private property for two years without ever charging the owner with a crime. When questioned before the Senate committee considering her nomination for Attorney General, she said she supports the current law.

I agree with Paul. This may be the only area of agreement with him. There are so many other areas of disagreement between us, I certainly would not vote for him. But I applaud his position here.

Now, here are my principal reasons for opposing her confirmation.

In other testimony before the committee, she said she supports the death penalty, saying she believes it deters crime. There is a world of evidence collected over many years that disputes that belief. There was evidence in England when there public hangings that the hangings actually caused more crime. We are among the greatest users of the death penalty, in company with China, North Korea, Yemen, and Iran. Isn't that wonderful company to be among? It is time for this nation to join with other civilized nations and ban this barbaric practice. Maybe the Supreme Court will do the right thing this term and end its use in the United States forever.

Lynch also says she opposes the legalization of marijuana. I have questions whether extensive use of it may lead to various kinds of health problems, but current scientific studies of marijuana use do not support my concern. There is plenty of hard evidence that cigarettes are far worse for our health and they are legal. And the same is true about alcohol and it is legal in much of the country. We tried outlawing it and we created organized crime.

We created the drug cartels and a huge prison industry by declaring a war on drugs. It has been the longest war in our history and our least successful. We have more than tripled the number of people in prison since 1985 when mandatory prison sentences for drug offenses were made federal law, and most of those people are in prison for non-violent drug offenses. And nothing we have done has stopped the use of drugs. It just has increased the cost.

When I was in law school back in the 1970s, one of the assigned books in criminal law was then already a classic, The Limits of the Criminal Sanction, by Herbert L. Packer, a professor at the Stanford University School of Law. My copy of this book, first published in 1968, was the 76th printing. That shows it was widely read, particularly in law schools. I have to believe that Loretta Lynch has read it. It is a very scholarly analysis of criminal law. His fundamental thesis was that the greater the penalty applied to a criminal offense, the more valuable success in that crime became. And it was especially true when it came to illegal drugs.

He wrote that the use of criminal law to try to control the use of narcotics and other drugs was the greatest example of the misuse of the criminal sanction. "A clearer case of misapplication of the criminal sanction would be difficult to imagine."

Just before that sentence he lists the results of reliance on the criminal sanction to control drugs - and keep in mind, this was written in 1968 before mandatory prison sentences and many of the other expansions of the war on drugs.

"The results of this reliance on the criminal sanction have included the following:
(1) Several hundred thousand people (ed. now more than 2 million), the overwhelming majority of whom have been primarily users rather than traffickers, have been subjected to severe criminal punishment.
(2) An immensely profitable illegal traffic in narcotics and other forbidden drugs has developed.
(3) This illegal traffic has contributed significantly to the growth and prosperity of organized criminal groups.
(4) A substantial number of all acquisitive crimes - burglary, robbery, auto theft, other forms of larceny - have been committed by drug users in order to get the wherewithal to pay the artificially high prices charged for drugs on the illegal market.
(5) Billions of dollars and a significant proportion of total law enforcement resources have been expended in all stages of the criminal process.
(6) A disturbingly large number of undesirable police practices - unconstitutional searches and seizures, entrapment, electronic surveillance - have become habitual because of the great difficulty that attends the detection of narcotics offenses.
(7) The burden of enforcement has fallen primarily on the urban poor, especially Negroes and Mexican-Americans.
(8) Research on the causes, effects, and cures of drug use has been stultified.
(9) The medical profession has been intimidated into neglecting its accustomed role of relieving this form of human misery.
(10) A large and well-entrenched enforcement bureaucracy has developed a vested interest in the status quo, and has effectively thwarted all but the most marginal reforms.
(11) Legislative invocations of the criminal sanction have automatically and unthinkingly been extended from narcotics to marijuana to the flood of new mind-altering drugs that have appeared in recent years, thereby compounding the preexisting problem."[ii]


As a prosecutor, Ms. Lynch has been outstanding. That is a crime-fighting job, not a law-making one. The role of Attorney General is different. Yes, there is crime-fighting, but there also is law-making, or, at least law-influencing. For example, the present Attorney General has stopped enforcement of federal laws against marijuana in states where it has been legalized. That is an act of discretion, but also of common sense.

The Attorney General of the United States is the leading legal administrative official of the United States and has great influence over legislation and over how existing laws are enforced. It is very important that someone hold this position with a forward-looking view, not one based on the past, refusing to see and acknowledge the wrongness of the war on drugs.

One of the greatest mistakes of our past has been the War on Drugs, including the criminalization of marijuana. No sensible person can expect to enforce a law against a plant that can be grown under artificial light in anyone's closet without violating the Constitution in wholesale amounts.

The legalization, or at least de-criminalization of marijuana would save millions of people from criminal records and prison sentences that ruin their lives, and, at the same time, save billions of dollars in law enforcement and prison costs. It also would eliminate a major source of profit of the drug cartels.

Our Attorney General needs to have better judgment that what Loretta Lynch has displayed.

Packer, Herbert L. The Limits of the Criminal Sanction. Stanford, CA: Stanford University Press, 1968. p. 333.
[ii] Ibid. pp 332-333

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She sounds like a Republican. GeorgeGist Feb 2015 #1
her job will be to implement the policies and views of barack obama nt msongs Feb 2015 #10
I will never support a drug warrior for exective office in the Justice Dept.... mike_c Feb 2015 #2
Why? progressoid Feb 2015 #3
corporatist lawyer jimruymen Feb 2015 #4
She sounds like another of Pres Obama's disappointing appointees. Not a progressive rhett o rick Feb 2015 #5
Nope. Hell, even his Supreme Court nominees voted to allow wage theft by Amazon. Scuba Feb 2015 #9
I saw that. Erg! nm rhett o rick Feb 2015 #14
No, they recognized that Congress had voted to allow it. Jim Lane Feb 2015 #15
Their job is to overrule Congress if appropriate. That's a big part of what the SCOTUS is for. Scuba Feb 2015 #16
Only in cases of violations of the Constitution. Jim Lane Feb 2015 #18
Exactly. Are you arguing that the law allowing wage theft is Constitutional? Scuba Feb 2015 #19
Are you arguing that the Constitution requires overtime pay? Jim Lane Feb 2015 #20
Work without pay sure sounds like "involuntary servitude", but maybe that's just me. Scuba Feb 2015 #21
Please alert Skinner that MIRT is a violation of the Thirteenth Amendment. Jim Lane Feb 2015 #22
Your MiRT example is wholly inapposite. merrily Feb 2015 #28
the fact that she reached office under our current system of government.... Adam051188 Feb 2015 #6
I thought class wars began thousands of years ago, and almost always with government being of the merrily Feb 2015 #29
touche Adam051188 Feb 2015 #31
I agree. I don't like this choice for Attorney General mountain grammy Feb 2015 #7
Next, you'll be getting a "Greenwald-Snowden '16" tattoo on your arm. Fuddnik Feb 2015 #8
Been there, done that. project_bluebook Feb 2015 #11
Paulist have taken over ! geeez Cryptoad Feb 2015 #12
I don't support legalization of marijuana, either, unless you release ALL black and brown men Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2015 #13
Your characterization of the OP is indefensible. Jim Lane Feb 2015 #17
I don't give a fuck about Rand Paul or what he thinks. As long as he's Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2015 #23
"Case closed!" Not really, you're using a associational and/or genetic fallacy friendly_iconoclast Feb 2015 #24
There is nothing you can tell me, no article you can post, or write that would EVER lead me to Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2015 #25
Pointing out that a racist is correct on *one* subject isn't giving them a character reference friendly_iconoclast Feb 2015 #32
Good examples. I remember making the same point about NAFTA. Jim Lane Feb 2015 #30
If Paul said that 2+2=4, those who pointed out that he was correct in that instance would be... friendly_iconoclast Feb 2015 #33
Our interlocutor seems bent on avoiding actually discussing what Riker brought up friendly_iconoclast Feb 2015 #34
I DON'T SUPPORT RACISTS!!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2015 #26
ITA on releasing and wiping clean JustAnotherGen Feb 2015 #27
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