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mikeb302000

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Sun Jan 6, 2013, 05:50 AM Jan 2013

Gun Rights Increase Suicides [View all]

The Arizona Republic

Pain radiated through the phone when Kristi Stadler called the crisis hotline in the wee hours one May morning.

"I would like to kill myself," she told Luis, the voice at the other end of the line. "I know that life is an option for me, but I know it's been an option for the past 12 years, and it hasn't gotten any better, and when it does, it always gets bad again."

Terry Stadler tears up as he talks about his daughter's 12-year battle with mental illness. She fought it with everything she had, he says. With repeated hospitalizations, with medication and an electrical implant designed to help with her deep depression. With crisis counseling and years of work with psychiatrists. She fought hard, her father says, right up until that day in May 2009 when the Phoenix Police Department handed her a loaded gun. Fifteen hours later, Kristi Lee Stadler was dead.

Knowing that she had a history of mental illness.

Knowing that she had threatened suicide two months earlier.

Instead, police did the requisite "Brady check," verifying that Kristi had never been ordered by a judge into treatment, and proceeded to track her down to let her know she could come get her gun.
Kristi picked up her gun and bullets on May 7, 2009.

She died just after 4 a.m. on May 8.


This sad story is a good illustration of how guns assist suicides. The biased pro-gun folks will say anything to defend and protect their beloved guns, but the obvious fact is gun availability makes suicide attempts more likely to succeed.

One of the things they're worried about is that people with minor psychological problems will also be restricted if we try to do something about this. In successfully striving to prevent that, they are responsible for cases like this.

What's your opinion? Please leave a comment.
Cross posted at Mikeb302000
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Gun Rights Increase Suicides [View all] mikeb302000 Jan 2013 OP
I don't know why people don't choose pills... dkf Jan 2013 #1
Less certain to be successful. Lionessa Jan 2013 #4
Not at all ... holdencaufield Jan 2013 #5
Statistically speaking, yes. Lionessa Jan 2013 #6
Not always BigAlanMac Jan 2013 #7
How do they do it so successfully in Japan? Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #25
Because there were no suicides ... holdencaufield Jan 2013 #2
There are 2 options here intaglio Jan 2013 #8
Blaming suicide on firearms ... holdencaufield Jan 2013 #9
That is an oversimplication iiibbb Jan 2013 #12
Another reading comprehension fail intaglio Jan 2013 #19
Somehow it seems more humane to allow a successful Lionessa Jan 2013 #3
in japan suicide is honorable jimmy the one Jan 2013 #10
That firearms are a more effective mode of suicide does not suprise me iiibbb Jan 2013 #11
If someone suggested that... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2013 #13
Are you kidding me... the proliferation of child pornography is all internet iiibbb Jan 2013 #15
Yes, it is evil and... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2013 #21
Absolutely. There are plenty of studies to back this up. DanTex Jan 2013 #14
Pot meet kettle... iiibbb Jan 2013 #16
So do you have a comment on the Harvard Public Health studies? DanTex Jan 2013 #18
I had my comment. I said I agreed with it's findings and I didn't argue against it. iiibbb Jan 2013 #20
Guns suicide people. ileus Jan 2013 #17
I re-learned a hard reality of suicide last year slackmaster Jan 2013 #22
Of course gun ownership increases the likelihood of successful suicide... brindleboxer Jan 2013 #23
Very well said! cmclane28 Jan 2013 #33
What about almost Gun Free JAPAN generalhh Jan 2013 #24
The make murder suicide far easier as well MightyMopar Jan 2013 #26
but Japan has more murder suicide than you seem to think gejohnston Jan 2013 #27
A person should have the right to bring their life to an end if they so choose. Undismayed Jan 2013 #28
Scientists have concluded that correalation is not causation. Another Fail by Mikey! Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2013 #29
I think unemployment, poverty, and uncontrolled mental illness is probably a bigger factor. bubbayugga Jan 2013 #30
suicide in japan, generally not dishonorable jimmy the one Jan 2013 #31
actually is second behind South Korea gejohnston Jan 2013 #32
This individual case poses an interesting question sylvi Jan 2013 #34
Speech rights... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2013 #35
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