Gun Control & RKBA

Lurks Often

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42. Been around for years

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 12:50 PM

Jan 2013

a properly set up 1866 or 1873 lever action (and yes those are the dates they were invented for the gun illiterates) in the hands of a really good shooter can get 10 rounds off in about 3 seconds.

The average cowboy shooter can get 24-26 aimed shots off in under 40 seconds and the really fast can get 24-26 shots off in under 20 seconds, all with guns or replicas of guns designed prior to 1900:

As for the "fire on close" some older shotguns, such as the Winchester 1897 & Model 12 and some Ithaca's can do that. Having tried it at the range with Winchester 1897 I can state it doesn't work very well if you want to hit a target.

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The future of armed self-defense? [View all] krispos42 Dec 2012 OP

Blasphemy gejohnston Dec 2012 #1

Blasphemy indeed! ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #3

Well, you're gonna hate this..... PavePusher Dec 2012 #16

I'm not usually a fan of gun confisation, but I might make an exception for that gun. Travis_0004 Dec 2012 #26

That's crazy talk, you spoilsport. PavePusher Dec 2012 #28

LOL! Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #41

My 1895 Guide is tactical! sir pball Mar 2013 #73

That's along the line of what I envisioned krispos42 Jan 2013 #31

a tactical version of the Browning BLR? gejohnston Jan 2013 #32

Yup. Feed it from a standard AR-15, M1 Carbine, or AK-47 magazine. krispos42 Jan 2013 #37

I saw that crazyrayray Jan 2013 #67

I just got done being badgered by a DU member who exposed me: NYC_SKP Dec 2012 #2

You might do well to remind those badgers that registration at the federal level is illegal. beevul Dec 2012 #4

A lever-action was used to slaughter students at Pearl High School in 1997. mwrguy Dec 2012 #5

In other words, "assault" is a verb and not an adjective Howzit Jan 2013 #34

its all about the hardware not the dead victims of gun owners nt msongs Dec 2012 #6

please focus... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2012 #8

I've been thinking about this also. I predict new "speed loaders" Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #7

Sounds like LULA 2.0 n/t Glaug-Eldare Dec 2012 #9

what is LULA? n/t Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #15

Internal magazines can only be so big before the gun becomes very awkward to handle. Kaleva Dec 2012 #11

Spend a little time with an M1 Garand. jeepnstein Dec 2012 #13

Let us assusme the AR magazine was not removable. Would it become more awkward to handle? Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #14

But then you are not talking about an internal magazine. Kaleva Dec 2012 #17

Well, that is what I consider an internal magazine. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #18

Do you consider the SKS to have an internal magazine? OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #62

Yes Kaleva Jan 2013 #63

on an AR, if you pop the back pin and tilt the upper receiver forward, OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #65

Thanks for the response Kaleva Jan 2013 #66

I think one ought to assume that there's going to be a limit on detachable magazine capacity also. Kaleva Dec 2012 #10

Yeah, well, there are probably a billion gun magazines out there now. krispos42 Dec 2012 #20

Prohibiting the manufacture or importing of such mags will drive up the cost of them every year. Kaleva Dec 2012 #21

Over a multi-decade period of time, maybe. krispos42 Dec 2012 #22

yet when these things happen in Europe and even China gejohnston Dec 2012 #23

Do you think.... Puha Ekapi Dec 2012 #29

They might krispos42 Dec 2012 #30

Both have been done. jmg257 Dec 2012 #12

Interestingly, the only things I am interested in purchasing are AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #19

This post is exactly what I've suspected about the technology roninjedi Dec 2012 #24

Wrong direction on the timeline? ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #25

I'm sorry. I think I was unclear. I said "new" technologies when I should've said "old" roninjedi Dec 2012 #27

When Australia banned semi-auto rifles, they included pump actions too - same thing will happen Howzit Jan 2013 #33

The Australian politicial system must operate differently. In this country, there are going to be AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2013 #52

Regarding the lever action sylvi Jan 2013 #35

I think they have those already. krispos42 Jan 2013 #38

Been around for years Lurks Often Jan 2013 #42

I went to a CAS practice shoot once krispos42 Jan 2013 #43

backhanded gun control measure? jimmy the one Jan 2013 #36

"assault weapons" are also shotguns and pistols. krispos42 Jan 2013 #40

anders likes, and his dislikes jimmy the one Jan 2013 #44

You mean "gist", right? krispos42 Jan 2013 #45

krispos wins on trivial pursuit jimmy the one Jan 2013 #46

Only with irritants. krispos42 Jan 2013 #47

tactical mistake ar 15 jimmy the one Jan 2013 #48

We all know you're an expert at the cheap shot, at least. krispos42 Jan 2013 #49

tactical rifle on a silver platter jimmy the one Jan 2013 #50

You don't have to read my mind. krispos42 Jan 2013 #51

I think you missed the point gejohnston Jan 2013 #54

Iverglas, is that you? Howzit Jan 2013 #68

Viable insulation from an unlikely ban/confiscate scheme iiibbb Jan 2013 #39

Not tactical but much fun overthehillvet Jan 2013 #53

The only solution is Mutually Assured Destruction. Speck Tater Jan 2013 #55

problem is, gejohnston Jan 2013 #56

I'm talking full on Mutual Assured Destruction. Speck Tater Jan 2013 #57

dude, you can do what ever works for you gejohnston Jan 2013 #58

I live in rural Oregon. Speck Tater Jan 2013 #59

people own guns for various reasons gejohnston Jan 2013 #60

"There is a difference being afraid and prepared." Speck Tater Jan 2013 #64

I think pump-shotguns will get the most attention. No way are they banning pump shotties. OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #61

seems the Brits have been doing it for years gejohnston Mar 2013 #69

The antigunners will come after these too. guardian Mar 2013 #70

Dear Mr. -pos45 Callisto32 Mar 2013 #71

I have ideas krispos42 Mar 2013 #72