Gun Rights Increase Suicides

[jimmy the one]

31. suicide in japan, generally not dishonorable

generalhh: Japan has the highest rate of suicide of 1st world countries. Its their culture.

CORRECT - it's more 'acceptable' in japan, to commit suicide. There's little or no stigma as there is in america. You don't immediately go to 'hell' in japan, like american christians do if they suicide (they must stick it out till natural death, 'god's law').

gejohnston .. but Japan has more murder suicide {SHINJU} than you seem to think .. they just define it as different types of suicide many times.

True, are you with me or agin me?

from your link, johnston: Fuso (1985) noted an interesting difference here between Japan and {USA}.　Some of the officials who were found guilty in the Watergate Scandal, when on bail or after release from prison, wrote memoirs, and gave lectures.....Almost no one killed themselves suffering from the crime they committed. {DID ANY?} ... When scandals occur in Japan, persons who hold important information and feel loyal to the key figures who actually control from behind the scenes often commit suicide. It is rare for the key figures themselves to commit suicide

.. from your link, johnston: shinju in Japanese, originally meant a mutual suicide agreement by lovers in order to prove the genuineness of their love to each other.
..Shinju has been classified into 2 categories, johshi (mutually consented lovers' suicide) and oyako-shinju (parent-child suicide), the latter of which is subclassified further such as boshi-shinju (mother-child suicide), fushi-shinju (father-child suicide), and ikka-shinju (family suicide)... Most cases of shinju are boshi-shinju in which the children, who are too young to decide on suicide themselves, are killed by their mothers.
... Japanese often show considerable sympathy toward parents who are not able to find any other recourse but to commit suicide with her/his children.

Japanese logic, the suicidal mother cannot bear to leave the child to survive alone; she would rather kill the child because she believes that nobody else in the world would take care of the child better than she, and that the child would be better off dying with her.

Some boshi-shinju may be a way for a wife to get revenge on her husband. She may react to the discover of her husband having an extramarital affair or demand for divorce by killing her children in order to punish her husband after she commits suicide.. there is a strong tendency for the mother to consider the children as an essential part of herself.. It is believed that children cannot or should not be left alone in the world where parent(s) have killed themselves. The children are killed before the parent commits suicide, because they are loved deeply. (eh)
..it should be emphasized that the adults involved in shinju do not represent the norm of Japanese society. These are usually individuals who become desperate due to a combination of a life stressor, concomitant psychiatric illness such as depression or psychosis, and premorbid personality vulnerabilities..
The average psychologically healthy Japanese would not consider shinju as a solution to their problems

wiki: Japanese nonbank lenders, starting in mid-90s, began taking out life insurance policies which include suicide payouts on borrowers that included suicide coverage, and borrowers not required to be notified.. unemployed accounted for 57% of all suicides,
Japanese society's attitude toward suicide has been termed "tolerant,"..many occasions suicide seen as a morally responsible action

Imagine, ~40% the population of USA (~130 million) stuffed into a state the size of california. JAPAN.