Gun Control & RKBA

X_Digger

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26. We don't..

Sat Jan 21, 2012, 11:19 PM

Jan 2012

There's no due process to be adjudicated 'a hot head', nor should there be. Unless and until someone does something that crosses the line, we can't infringe on their rights.

Nor would training have likely prevented it. (If training could fix things like this, then we wouldn't have the BART shooting, the seattle cop shooting the hearing impaired guy, etc.)

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Two CCW Holders Kill One Another [View all] SecularMotion Jan 2012 OP

More guns being victimized by humans. ileus Jan 2012 #1

"upside is they were pretty old and their useful lifespans were behind them..." Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #5

Oy Vey ellisonz Jan 2012 #12

Any reason you're posting an article from 8/2010? X_Digger Jan 2012 #2

Could you please give a link to the original discussion? SecularMotion Jan 2012 #3

With the archives offline, no.. X_Digger Jan 2012 #4

What could have been done to prevent this tragic misuse of CCWs? SecularMotion Jan 2012 #7

What do you propose? (He asks innocently..) X_Digger Jan 2012 #8

If you were to remove the weapons from the equation SecularMotion Jan 2012 #9

Why yes, if all guns magically disappeared there'd be no more gun deaths! X_Digger Jan 2012 #10

Try to stay on subject SecularMotion Jan 2012 #14

Well let's see.. Robert could have brained Charles with a pink flamingo.. X_Digger Jan 2012 #17

So you agree that without the guns present one or both of these men would still be alive? SecularMotion Jan 2012 #18

My crystal ball is broken, how's yours? X_Digger Jan 2012 #19

I don't need a crystal ball. SecularMotion Jan 2012 #20

'both or one' -- covered the bases there, eh? X_Digger Jan 2012 #21

It's the *poof* that demands discussion SecularMotion Jan 2012 #23

We don't.. X_Digger Jan 2012 #26

I think most Democrats and Americans agree that restrictions on where a gun can be carried SecularMotion Jan 2012 #28

Err, if that were true.. X_Digger Jan 2012 #29

You hold some far right views on gun issues SecularMotion Jan 2012 #30

Liberal interpretation of Civil Rights is now a "far right view". Wow, NewSpeak is booming along... PavePusher Jan 2012 #32

Yes, actually the far right view is a liberal interpretation of the 2nd amendment SecularMotion Jan 2012 #37

Actually small "l" is exactly what I meant, and it is a very good thing indeed. PavePusher Jan 2012 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author pipoman Feb 2012 #68

I hold views that many democrats hold as well. X_Digger Jan 2012 #33

There are only 4.5 million NRA members rl6214 Jan 2012 #45

Can't be due to the NRA, burf Feb 2012 #64

Why do you characterize... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #66

"extend"?! PavePusher Jan 2012 #31

I'm not going to argue the meaning of 'bear' with you SecularMotion Jan 2012 #35

How odd, I found every one of those words in a dictionary.... PavePusher Jan 2012 #36

re: "...the terms you are using are NRA/Right wing framing..." discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2012 #43

Respectfully, that is your opinion, not exactly a fact. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #70

Here's an example SecularMotion Feb 2012 #72

How about a poll gejohnston Feb 2012 #73

Politicians are not a "protected class" of people, nor should they ever be. PavePusher Feb 2012 #75

We'll put you down as one of the minority of gun-owners who disagree with the legislation SecularMotion Feb 2012 #76

"Minority"? As declared by MAIG? I might as well cite an NRA poll- it would be just as valid. friendly_iconoclast Feb 2012 #77

Here's another example SecularMotion Feb 2012 #74

Um... Straw Man Jan 2012 #38

Since we are only talking about this one incident per your post #14 pipoman Jan 2012 #40

Nevermind...I didn't realize.. pipoman Feb 2012 #69

Sure ObamaFTW2012 Jan 2012 #11

You missed the point SecularMotion Jan 2012 #15

Dumb question ObamaFTW2012 Jan 2012 #22

The murder rate during the middle ages (no guns) was 30 times what it is today. N/T GreenStormCloud Feb 2012 #65

"...remove the weapons from the equation..." Are you suggesting prohibition? SteveW Jan 2012 #47

Too Logical fightthegoodfightnow Jan 2012 #50

There have also been numerous times when a person with a carry permit... spin Jan 2012 #27

"What could have been done to prevent this tragic misuse of CCWs?" rl6214 Jan 2012 #44

Nothing that wouldn't also prevent lots and lots of proper uses of CCW. AtheistCrusader Feb 2012 #78

You need to know that if a post is not pro CC it has an expiration date. nt. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #6

And pro-CC... ellisonz Jan 2012 #13

Oh, the date is not really a concern... SteveW Jan 2012 #48

In 3 years 189 for CCW vs per year 30,000 for the whole country. E6-B Jan 2012 #16

Dammit, you're ruining the narrative by doing the math! friendly_iconoclast Jan 2012 #53

Can't we all agree guns kill people? ileus Jan 2012 #24

Sound like they were dueling. ManiacJoe Jan 2012 #25

Idle hands are the devil's playground... n/t PavePusher Jan 2012 #34

In this case the devil's investment paid off with two new buddies. ileus Jan 2012 #39

HuffPo appears to be the next warm place to do bidness for gun-controllers. nt SteveW Jan 2012 #49

Two men with bad tempers and poor anger management skills are now dead slackmaster Jan 2012 #42

So What? fightthegoodfightnow Jan 2012 #51

How would you feel if they *didn't* have CCLs and still managed to kill each other? friendly_iconoclast Jan 2012 #52

You Suspect? fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #57

It amazes me that "gun culture" doesn't get that. Hoyt Feb 2012 #58

What law would you prpose to prevent this from happining again? oneshooter Feb 2012 #59

And why are we discussing something that happened over 2 years ago anyway? DonP Feb 2012 #61

I'm pro-choice on just about everything, including gun ownership by people who aren't legally... slackmaster Jan 2012 #55

Curious: Does HuffPo allow "pro-gun" viewpoints, or is it the SOSO? nt SteveW Jan 2012 #46

Yes, they do. PavePusher Jan 2012 #54

Earlier this year? How does it get any earlier this year? montanto Jan 2012 #56

Man with firearm stops office shooting. Remmah2 Feb 2012 #60

Shouldn't we pass a law making dueling illegal rl6214 Feb 2012 #62

:) another fine idea! n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #67

Isn't this precisely what you want? Common Sense Party Feb 2012 #63

Appeals to emotion and the spotlighting of rare events are all the Simo 1939_1940 Feb 2012 #71

Part of the 67,429,433.0261 such deaths per month! Da horror! Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #79