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AtheistCrusader

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44. I think what the NRA got instituted there is bad
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 11:48 AM
Jan 2013

but it's a natural reaction to some things I have seen right here on DU. In the wake of Sandy Hook Elementary, I saw multiple posts, not from low post count trolls, but long standing members, insisting that people who had been adjudicated mentally deficient/involuntarily committed for mental health, should have their ability to petition the courts to have their firearms re-instated, should be permanently revoked.

When you have people pushing for shit like that, the NRA is going to push back the other way, and they are of course going to push it to some unreasonable extreme.


Now, I'm not saying you supported that permaban bill for mental health issues, (in fact, it was submitted by a republican) but some here did, and we need to craft much more intelligent legislation than that.

Reinstatement should look something like this:

1. Waiting period. (year?)
2. Evaluation period. (6mo/year, licensed psychologist? Maybe a panel of them?)
3. Review of the results of the evaluation period by a circuit court level judge.
4. Remand the petitioner to another evaluation period, or re-instate the rights (all of them, not just firearms, but conservatorship, voting, anything that was adjudicated away initially) fully.

That would be a more intelligent process. OF COURSE the NRA backed bill sucked. We can take that power away from them. Just craft legislation that is approachable, and any reasonable person would support, if you showed it to them without identifying the political affiliation of the author.

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Agreed. Glassunion Jan 2013 #1
I have... Puha Ekapi Jan 2013 #2
what Glassunion and the other guys said gejohnston Jan 2013 #3
every gun buyer should be checked overthehillvet Jan 2013 #4
that has to do with medical privacy laws of each state gejohnston Jan 2013 #8
We have a way Dog Gone at Penigma Jan 2013 #15
what evidence is this? gejohnston Jan 2013 #18
there is an entire area of law being practiced that takes advantage of how easy it is Dog Gone at Penigma Jan 2013 #36
some countries, non violent felons don't lose them at all gejohnston Jan 2013 #40
Great ideas overthehillvet Jan 2013 #19
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #49
Source? AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #53
no problem with this Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #5
Good n/t sarisataka Jan 2013 #6
Rec'd Kaleva Jan 2013 #7
Not a bad idea I suppose. ileus Jan 2013 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Ashgrey77 Jan 2013 #10
You can have that one sylvi Jan 2013 #11
as long as the records are kept confidential backwoodsbob Jan 2013 #12
what is confidential in the age of the internet? anonymus has proved this to be false, haven't they? Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2013 #45
Open NICS to private sellers and require the check. aikoaiko Jan 2013 #13
I favor the Ca system for checking private sales. overthehillvet Jan 2013 #21
Agreed, as long as there is a safe-harbor provision for sellers. friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #51
Good. I hope he gets plenty of support. Dog Gone at Penigma Jan 2013 #14
Agree. Been advocated in the Gungeon for years. nt Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #16
What's he got against Annie Oakley? Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #17
Obviously a misogynist holdencaufield Jan 2013 #22
Agreed. LP2K12 Jan 2013 #20
just gotta add this overthehillvet Jan 2013 #23
Just curious how it would work... Bay Boy Jan 2013 #24
Done at the gun store ... Straw Man Jan 2013 #25
I can go for that overthehillvet Jan 2013 #27
States historical concealed carry prohibitions jimmy the one Jan 2013 #28
nope overthehillvet Jan 2013 #30
picayune jimmy the one Jan 2013 #31
They should be protected by the firearm owners protection act of 1986 if simply passing through. cmclane28 Jan 2013 #33
Absolutely correct that each state can set their own concealed laws cmclane28 Jan 2013 #34
All of those states are now shall-issue states. N/T GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #50
Does anyone know what Jenoch Jan 2013 #26
About 20 years before Louis Armstrong lit up a fatty at the Apollo. Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #29
Which of the last 2 years of mass shootings would this have prevented? AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #32
Jared Loughner Dog Gone at Penigma Jan 2013 #37
Loughner didn't buy his guns at a gun show. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #43
Also, he was never formally adjudged incompetent. friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #52
Gun owner not opposed cmclane28 Jan 2013 #35
Are you aware of what the NRA has done? Dog Gone at Penigma Jan 2013 #38
murder rates by states jimmy the one Jan 2013 #39
I think what the NRA got instituted there is bad AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #44
Baloney Dog Gone at Penigma Jan 2013 #46
fascinating gejohnston Jan 2013 #47
I didn't say the NRA position was reasonable or more reasonable. I said it was the opposite. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #48
accomplice to 1st deg murder, not the shooter jimmy the one Jan 2013 #41
don't care for due process much? gejohnston Jan 2013 #42
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