Gun Control & RKBA

Eleanors38

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16. Well, as a friend told me once during an argument...

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 11:35 AM

Jan 2013

"We could both do without your ideas and beliefs, but you have a right to blab them."

I know it's difficult to accept, but rights are not based on needs. The Aurora theater killer used a shotgun when his super-duper mag. jammed. How will a shotgun be termed "military style," esp. when the SCOTUS Miller decision specifically termed it of no military value?

Prohibition leads to prohibition, not sound policy.

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NRA Membership Surges By 100,000 In Wake Of Sandy Hook Shooting [View all] Purveyor Jan 2013 OP

No surprise their..... virginia mountainman Jan 2013 #1

What is the NRA going to do? Cary Jan 2013 #2

Which ban do you think will stop these shootings? Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #7

I don't know. Cary Jan 2013 #8

Well, as a friend told me once during an argument... Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #16

I didn't ask your friend. I asked you. Cary Jan 2013 #17

I assume you are talking about modern semi-automatic rifles that look similar ... spin Jan 2013 #18

Nice but none of it actually answers my question. Cary Jan 2013 #20

Please define "military style weapons" as you use it & I'll be delighted to answer that question. nt jody Jan 2013 #21

Sorry but I will not be playing that game with you or anyone else. Cary Jan 2013 #22

Sorry, I failed mind-reading. My guess is you don't have a definition for "military style weapons" jody Jan 2013 #23

That isn't an answer. Cary Jan 2013 #24

I answered your question. What are you trying to accomplish with your posts? nt jody Jan 2013 #25

Except you didn't answer the question. Cary Jan 2013 #28

they are not military style gejohnston Jan 2013 #29

You don't get it Cary Jan 2013 #30

I doubt you know anything about the gun laws of every other nation gejohnston Jan 2013 #31

I don't care about that doubt either. Cary Jan 2013 #32

not an NRA type, gejohnston Jan 2013 #33

But you're doing the NRA tactics. Cary Jan 2013 #34

You solve problems by finding the root problem and apply the solution gejohnston Jan 2013 #35

An epidemic of what? alabama_for_obama Jan 2013 #96

He means weapons that scare him holdencaufield Jan 2013 #50

A lot of "conservatives" are telling me this too. Cary Jan 2013 #55

Or maybe he means weapons like the one thucythucy Jan 2013 #77

Not bravery holdencaufield Jan 2013 #80

How will "knowledge" protect you thucythucy Jan 2013 #82

You understand the difference ... holdencaufield Jan 2013 #84

And you understand the difference between thucythucy Jan 2013 #88

You're being obtuse ... holdencaufield Jan 2013 #90

Good for you. thucythucy Jan 2013 #93

The Korean shop owners alabama_for_obama Jan 2013 #95

You asked me who (others?) needs these items. Ask THEM. Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #38

You don't make the rules Eleanors38 Cary Jan 2013 #42

Sorry you are so upset, but when you propose bans Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #44

There is no such obligation Cary Jan 2013 #46

No, it won't. sylvi Jan 2013 #47

I have 28 years of litigation experience. Cary Jan 2013 #53

You propose bans, you provide the rationale. nt Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #98

I have provided my rationale several times. Cary Jan 2013 #99

The U.S. doesn't have a Dept. of Needs. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #54

Wow, I didn't know that. thucythucy Jan 2013 #78

"I know it's difficult to accept, but rights are not based on needs" Starboard Tack Jan 2013 #63

Where in the First does it say you have a right to electronic communication? Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #97

My proposal leaves plenty of guns adequate for SD, hunting and sport shooting. Starboard Tack Jan 2013 #109

Often forgotten is the stasis developed around civilian arms ownership. Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #110

What absolute nonsense. Starboard Tack Jan 2013 #111

Wrong. Civilian gun ownership plateaued years ago with semi-autos. nt Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #113

OK, I think we're done Starboard Tack Jan 2013 #112

You were checked, Starboard. I guess you are angry. Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #114

Anybody who shoots. krispos42 Jan 2013 #37

I don't accept that Cary Jan 2013 #41

Then I'm sorry to say you're living in a bubble krispos42 Jan 2013 #43

Reality is that there will very likely be some kind assault ban. Cary Jan 2013 #52

No, that's not my point of view krispos42 Jan 2013 #75

If you believe there is no real difference between these weapons then it must follow that... Cary Jan 2013 #56

we don't ban things based on "needs" gejohnston Jan 2013 #58

We enact laws based on balancing rights and common sense. Cary Jan 2013 #59

no one needs a 500 hp engine gejohnston Jan 2013 #60

So push to have 500 horsepower engines banned. Cary Jan 2013 #61

nobody needs it gejohnston Jan 2013 #62

Sorry bud but an engine isn't the same thing as a military style weapon. Cary Jan 2013 #64

I thought we were talking about saving lives gejohnston Jan 2013 #65

I have expressed my opinion that we should ban military style weapons and high capacity magazines. Cary Jan 2013 #66

help dealing with the root causes gejohnston Jan 2013 #67

And there's also a higher profit margin on military style weapons. Cary Jan 2013 #68

the profit is increased demand with what I think is a little price gouging on the side gejohnston Jan 2013 #69

This has nothing to do with "supply-side economics." Cary Jan 2013 #70

other than price gouging, how are they more profitable? gejohnston Jan 2013 #71

You tell me. Cary Jan 2013 #72

Walmart sold them gejohnston Jan 2013 #73

Or, you're okay with leaving things as they are. After all... krispos42 Jan 2013 #74

Do you accept sylvi Jan 2013 #48

I have reached a point where I believe we should ban military style weapons and high capacity mags. Cary Jan 2013 #57

if that is a human's response to mass shooing of 6 + 7 yr olds, pansypoo53219 Jan 2013 #3

+1000 HockeyMom Jan 2013 #5

obviously they are not human. must be zombies. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2013 #6

It wasn't a response to mass shooting of 6 + 7 yr olds sylvi Jan 2013 #49

Why am I not surprised that you refer to Democrats as "THEY"? Starboard Tack Jan 2013 #15

no surprise samsingh Jan 2013 #4

The NRA will use any comment by any politician who mentions banning or confiscating ... spin Jan 2013 #9

Well said. Pullo Jan 2013 #10

gunnuts anonymous - I was an nra member jimmy the one Jan 2013 #11

I'm a lifer with the NRA, membership was $500 back when it was 'gifted' to me. Now life mem Purveyor Jan 2013 #14

bunch of dumbasses. what do they know? nothing. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2013 #12

NRA approval 42%, disapproval 45% , PPP jimmy the one Jan 2013 #13

Amazing how quickly the stables are refilled. Hercules, Hercules, wherefore art thou! nt jody Jan 2013 #19

LOL! Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #39

That means about 349.9 million citizens did NOT join the NRA Trajan Jan 2013 #26

See #36. Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #40

Why do I need to read #36? Trajan Jan 2013 #45

It also means that 90%+ of the firearms owners in the USA still aren't NRA members Xithras Jan 2013 #103

I'm sure the NRA will be publishing its membership directory soon.... rgbecker Jan 2013 #27

According to some reports the Brady Campaign sold a list of their members ... spin Jan 2013 #36

According to some reports thucythucy Jan 2013 #81

from the one foundation that pays their salaries and rent gejohnston Jan 2013 #83

Actually, no. thucythucy Jan 2013 #85

they get four million a year gejohnston Jan 2013 #87

It's late, and I'm getting a little bleary here. thucythucy Jan 2013 #92

that is because they told the FEC gejohnston Jan 2013 #94

"Urban and wealthy..." thucythucy Jan 2013 #100

I can relate in some ways gejohnston Jan 2013 #104

Just wanted to say thucythucy Jan 2013 #106

same here, gejohnston Jan 2013 #107

never underestimate the stupidity of the American Gun Nut...... bowens43 Jan 2013 #51

In a country of over $300 milion, that 100k Still Sensible Jan 2013 #76

Exactly. Huffington's loves to tabloid stories still_one Jan 2013 #102

Am I supposed to believe this? thucythucy Jan 2013 #79

Believe or not but the gun sale reports would seem to confirm... eom Purveyor Jan 2013 #86

Yeah, it confirms that a certain segment of our population thucythucy Jan 2013 #89

No argument from on that from me... eom Purveyor Jan 2013 #91

Surge? That amounts to .03% of the us population. What is the other still_one Jan 2013 #101

Obama supporters? HockeyMom Jan 2013 #105

Eleanors wrote about 'Arms' circa 1791 jimmy the one Jan 2013 #108

I have to say that the NRA has shown their evil side recently. hrmjustin Jan 2013 #115

Since I posted this...now they are 'claiming' over a quarter of a million new sign-ups? eom Purveyor Jan 2013 #116

They won't say how much they have lost. It makes me sick that people would join this group. hrmjustin Jan 2013 #117