Gun Control & RKBA

billh58

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40. But they are only

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 06:02 PM

Jan 2013

trying to "help" us to understand that more guns are the answer to all of our social problems. They just want to "help" us understand that they have everyone's best interests at heart.

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are we talking about the same thing when we speak of "assault weapons"? [View all] gejohnston Jan 2013 OP

When it comes to the average citizen's right upaloopa Jan 2013 #1

I think we need to end the meme... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2013 #3

Okay, that's funny. rrneck Jan 2013 #4

but representatives usually don't have such knowledge gejohnston Jan 2013 #6

Yup - the gunners cannot obfuscate this anymore jpak Jan 2013 #12

I think its important to have a little knowledge of the subject wercal Jan 2013 #14

A very long-winded diatribe billh58 Jan 2013 #83

I hunt where there are feral dogs iiibbb Jan 2013 #92

Are you saying you wish to outlaw all Jenoch Jan 2013 #113

What evidence to you have to back that up? SCRKBA Jan 2013 #115

PPRed with billh58 Jan 2013 #116

I seriously doubt they are actually hiring them gejohnston Jan 2013 #117

You do realize.. wercal Jan 2013 #122

Your side of the billh58 Jan 2013 #124

but your side offers nothing but gejohnston Jan 2013 #125

You called my post a Diatribe wercal Jan 2013 #126

There is a word for that... cleanhippie Jan 2013 #131

Wow...Learn Something New Every Day wercal Jan 2013 #132

What the hell is Berserker Jan 2013 #118

Not in the NRA and never found the Gungeon wercal Jan 2013 #119

quick question gejohnston Jan 2013 #114

I get your point wercal Jan 2013 #120

since most sellers are FFLs gejohnston Jan 2013 #121

I know somebody who dealt in illegal guns wercal Jan 2013 #123

I tried....but you lost me at "modern musket"....nt pkdu Jan 2013 #2

the light bulb is the modern oil lamp gejohnston Jan 2013 #8

Nah, the founders had no idea what COULD be invented in the future.... pkdu Jan 2013 #11

particle beam weapons, or phasers but gejohnston Jan 2013 #17

If, one day, we do have "Star Trek" hand phasers... krispos42 Jan 2013 #84

Semi-autos have been around for 100 years n/t Pullo Jan 2013 #39

260 years. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #46

More deflection.....How long to recharge the Air cylinder? Nt pkdu Jan 2013 #85

Not long enough for it to be the primary cause for it falling out of use. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #94

Nice collection of random facts that dont support your assertion or answer my question ..how long? pkdu Jan 2013 #128

Actually, it does support my assertion. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #130

And that's relevant to my question how? Nt pkdu Jan 2013 #86

I have three comments underpants Jan 2013 #5

couple of things gejohnston Jan 2013 #7

Look at it from the point of view of the politician. rrneck Jan 2013 #9

Instead of solving our gun violence problem, let's nitpick over obscure definitions. Scuba Jan 2013 #10

I refuse to use their definitions jpak Jan 2013 #13

I guess we know what you think of police then. N/T beevul Jan 2013 #60

And yet another "famous" billh58 Jan 2013 #74

Famous? beevul Jan 2013 #112

And you continue to show your ignorance rl6214 Jan 2013 #111

you solve the problem by dealing with root causes gejohnston Jan 2013 #15

And our loose gun laws, don't forget that cause. Scuba Jan 2013 #16

that's not a cause gejohnston Jan 2013 #18

Loose gun laws aren't part of our gun violence problem? Scuba Jan 2013 #19

it affects suicide by gun, if you want to call that violence gejohnston Jan 2013 #21

I like your pic. Very flattering. Scuba Jan 2013 #22

that's all you have? gejohnston Jan 2013 #24

Well, as a firearm owner, yes I have several more substantive arguments regarding what is .... Scuba Jan 2013 #25

two things gejohnston Jan 2013 #27

Does jpak know you have that picture? Clames Jan 2013 #56

You are not going to stop the tide of calls upaloopa Jan 2013 #20

gun violence is dropping gejohnston Jan 2013 #23

Gun violence is dropping, AR 15s are not assault weapons upaloopa Jan 2013 #26

because that is what the FBI says gejohnston Jan 2013 #28

You don't get it. upaloopa Jan 2013 #34

maybe it is your paradigm gejohnston Jan 2013 #42

enlighten us discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2013 #43

"talking points" is an incantation, not a refutation. friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #50

I just read in the email from Mayors against Illegal Guns Frustratedlady Jan 2013 #31

how many were drug gangs killing each other gejohnston Jan 2013 #33

Does it matter who got gun down? A gang member upaloopa Jan 2013 #36

not what I'm saying gejohnston Jan 2013 #41

Why is it every solution you have skirts the upaloopa Jan 2013 #47

I believe the FBI Uniform Crime Report more than MAIG gejohnston Jan 2013 #48

You hang on to that like a junk yard dog. upaloopa Jan 2013 #49

you are either claiming the DoJ is in the pocket of the gun lobby or gejohnston Jan 2013 #51

No. I think information is being restricted upaloopa Jan 2013 #58

It happens to be true. Please note: friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #52

How many were handguns? WinniSkipper Jan 2013 #65

False. Pullo Jan 2013 #35

In your world not in reality you have your own upaloopa Jan 2013 #37

But they are only billh58 Jan 2013 #40

Guess the FBI is in some alernative reality according to you, then? Pullo Jan 2013 #61

Wow, even more basic billh58 Jan 2013 #78

This is indeed "informative" billh58 Jan 2013 #29

nobody needs a car capable of going over the speed limit either gejohnston Jan 2013 #30

Why not just come out and say you'd like to see all semi-auto's banned? Pullo Jan 2013 #32

And another Gungeoneer billh58 Jan 2013 #38

+1 Scuba Jan 2013 #44

Except the terfms "confiscation" and "ban" getting thrown around right now, and not by the NRA Pullo Jan 2013 #67

Back to the Gungeon billh58 Jan 2013 #73

So you're not trying to ban semi-autos with plastic black stocks, then??? Pullo Jan 2013 #80

Use of the search function belies your words: friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #68

I think people keep pointing out the "talking points" to you WinniSkipper Jan 2013 #71

You are very naive billh58 Jan 2013 #77

I didn't say compromise with the NRA WinniSkipper Jan 2013 #81

"Machines of death" rl6214 Jan 2013 #129

Why not just come out and say you don't upaloopa Jan 2013 #45

Because that wouldn't be true. Pullo Jan 2013 #62

A real Gungeon billh58 Jan 2013 #76

I agree with this. And I think all guns except maybe single-shot rifles should be banned. dorkulon Jan 2013 #53

At least you're being honest. I can appreciate that. Pullo Jan 2013 #63

to quote Josh Sugarmann gejohnston Jan 2013 #66

Ok 25 years from today they invent a weapon doc03 Jan 2013 #54

if they make a model that only works on stun gejohnston Jan 2013 #55

No I want one you can set on kill or vaporize "The right doc03 Jan 2013 #57

as a personal small arm maybe, gejohnston Jan 2013 #59

The folks that wrote the 2nd Amendment couldn't picture doc03 Jan 2013 #64

how can you eat it if you vaporize it? gejohnston Jan 2013 #69

Seems like a logical argument, we have no way of knowing what kind of doc03 Jan 2013 #70

that goes from arm to ordnance, gejohnston Jan 2013 #72

Really? ...you think dirty bomb is beyond a Tim McVeigh type ? Nt pkdu Jan 2013 #87

I was speaking of the absurd "legal nuke" argument like ICBMS gejohnston Jan 2013 #90

A dirty bomb is not a nuke chicoguy Jan 2013 #127

I can assure u I am neither , welcome "member since Monday with all my posts in Gundgeon" nt pkdu Jan 2013 #133

I like that, iiibbb Jan 2013 #75

Personally, I don't like the term for obvious reasons. Starboard Tack Jan 2013 #79

Well, So far...the 6th page is BS. jmg257 Jan 2013 #82

The term "assault weapons" was created by gun controllers. Straw Man Jan 2013 #88

The term Assault Weapons was used by Gun Digest jmg257 Jan 2013 #89

That book is about military and law-enforcement weapons. Straw Man Jan 2013 #91

See #95. That usage was then. nt jmg257 Jan 2013 #96

not in the same context gejohnston Jan 2013 #93

"Testing the latest in full auto & semiauto centerfires, rimfires jmg257 Jan 2013 #95

Where are you getting that? Straw Man Jan 2013 #97

From the cover of the Gun Digest Book of Assault Weapons, 1986. jmg257 Jan 2013 #98

OK, you're talking about this. Straw Man Jan 2013 #102

No doubt. Pretty sure there is an AK .22 in there. jmg257 Jan 2013 #103

Umm ... Straw Man Jan 2013 #104

You're kidding right? Did you miss the big block letters at the top??? jmg257 Jan 2013 #105

No, not kidding. Straw Man Jan 2013 #106

Riiigghhht! jmg257 Jan 2013 #107

Was that quote from the 1986 edition? Aahh..so assault weapons ARE assault rifles??? jmg257 Jan 2013 #108

No, my mistake. Straw Man Jan 2013 #109

Thats OK...on Amazon I "clicked to see inside" the book so jmg257 Jan 2013 #110

500.00 was a lot of money in 1986. :) Ashgrey77 Jan 2013 #134

What all the controllers are "getting at" is... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2013 #101

not really gejohnston Jan 2013 #99

I know. And an AR 180 is not an AW in NY...yet, just in this book. jmg257 Jan 2013 #100