Gun Control & RKBA

Eleanors38

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97. Where in the First does it say you have a right to electronic communication?

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 12:07 PM

Jan 2013

Or freedom of expression via the Internet? It doesn't, does it?

"Arms," in the context of the times, was far less specific than "press." It was meant to describe firearms designed to be held in one or both arms and operated there, and like the press not to constrained by the tech of the day.

The Aurora shooting was carried out in large measure with a shotgun. Neither of us will know what the result would have been were your bushel basket of prohibitions imposed. A bomb perhaps?

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NRA Membership Surges By 100,000 In Wake Of Sandy Hook Shooting [View all] Purveyor Jan 2013 OP

No surprise their..... virginia mountainman Jan 2013 #1

What is the NRA going to do? Cary Jan 2013 #2

Which ban do you think will stop these shootings? Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #7

I don't know. Cary Jan 2013 #8

Well, as a friend told me once during an argument... Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #16

I didn't ask your friend. I asked you. Cary Jan 2013 #17

I assume you are talking about modern semi-automatic rifles that look similar ... spin Jan 2013 #18

Nice but none of it actually answers my question. Cary Jan 2013 #20

Please define "military style weapons" as you use it & I'll be delighted to answer that question. nt jody Jan 2013 #21

Sorry but I will not be playing that game with you or anyone else. Cary Jan 2013 #22

Sorry, I failed mind-reading. My guess is you don't have a definition for "military style weapons" jody Jan 2013 #23

That isn't an answer. Cary Jan 2013 #24

I answered your question. What are you trying to accomplish with your posts? nt jody Jan 2013 #25

Except you didn't answer the question. Cary Jan 2013 #28

they are not military style gejohnston Jan 2013 #29

You don't get it Cary Jan 2013 #30

I doubt you know anything about the gun laws of every other nation gejohnston Jan 2013 #31

I don't care about that doubt either. Cary Jan 2013 #32

not an NRA type, gejohnston Jan 2013 #33

But you're doing the NRA tactics. Cary Jan 2013 #34

You solve problems by finding the root problem and apply the solution gejohnston Jan 2013 #35

An epidemic of what? alabama_for_obama Jan 2013 #96

He means weapons that scare him holdencaufield Jan 2013 #50

A lot of "conservatives" are telling me this too. Cary Jan 2013 #55

Or maybe he means weapons like the one thucythucy Jan 2013 #77

Not bravery holdencaufield Jan 2013 #80

How will "knowledge" protect you thucythucy Jan 2013 #82

You understand the difference ... holdencaufield Jan 2013 #84

And you understand the difference between thucythucy Jan 2013 #88

You're being obtuse ... holdencaufield Jan 2013 #90

Good for you. thucythucy Jan 2013 #93

The Korean shop owners alabama_for_obama Jan 2013 #95

You asked me who (others?) needs these items. Ask THEM. Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #38

You don't make the rules Eleanors38 Cary Jan 2013 #42

Sorry you are so upset, but when you propose bans Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #44

There is no such obligation Cary Jan 2013 #46

No, it won't. sylvi Jan 2013 #47

I have 28 years of litigation experience. Cary Jan 2013 #53

You propose bans, you provide the rationale. nt Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #98

I have provided my rationale several times. Cary Jan 2013 #99

The U.S. doesn't have a Dept. of Needs. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #54

Wow, I didn't know that. thucythucy Jan 2013 #78

"I know it's difficult to accept, but rights are not based on needs" Starboard Tack Jan 2013 #63

Where in the First does it say you have a right to electronic communication? Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #97

My proposal leaves plenty of guns adequate for SD, hunting and sport shooting. Starboard Tack Jan 2013 #109

Often forgotten is the stasis developed around civilian arms ownership. Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #110

What absolute nonsense. Starboard Tack Jan 2013 #111

Wrong. Civilian gun ownership plateaued years ago with semi-autos. nt Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #113

OK, I think we're done Starboard Tack Jan 2013 #112

You were checked, Starboard. I guess you are angry. Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #114

Anybody who shoots. krispos42 Jan 2013 #37

I don't accept that Cary Jan 2013 #41

Then I'm sorry to say you're living in a bubble krispos42 Jan 2013 #43

Reality is that there will very likely be some kind assault ban. Cary Jan 2013 #52

No, that's not my point of view krispos42 Jan 2013 #75

If you believe there is no real difference between these weapons then it must follow that... Cary Jan 2013 #56

we don't ban things based on "needs" gejohnston Jan 2013 #58

We enact laws based on balancing rights and common sense. Cary Jan 2013 #59

no one needs a 500 hp engine gejohnston Jan 2013 #60

So push to have 500 horsepower engines banned. Cary Jan 2013 #61

nobody needs it gejohnston Jan 2013 #62

Sorry bud but an engine isn't the same thing as a military style weapon. Cary Jan 2013 #64

I thought we were talking about saving lives gejohnston Jan 2013 #65

I have expressed my opinion that we should ban military style weapons and high capacity magazines. Cary Jan 2013 #66

help dealing with the root causes gejohnston Jan 2013 #67

And there's also a higher profit margin on military style weapons. Cary Jan 2013 #68

the profit is increased demand with what I think is a little price gouging on the side gejohnston Jan 2013 #69

This has nothing to do with "supply-side economics." Cary Jan 2013 #70

other than price gouging, how are they more profitable? gejohnston Jan 2013 #71

You tell me. Cary Jan 2013 #72

Walmart sold them gejohnston Jan 2013 #73

Or, you're okay with leaving things as they are. After all... krispos42 Jan 2013 #74

Do you accept sylvi Jan 2013 #48

I have reached a point where I believe we should ban military style weapons and high capacity mags. Cary Jan 2013 #57

if that is a human's response to mass shooing of 6 + 7 yr olds, pansypoo53219 Jan 2013 #3

+1000 HockeyMom Jan 2013 #5

obviously they are not human. must be zombies. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2013 #6

It wasn't a response to mass shooting of 6 + 7 yr olds sylvi Jan 2013 #49

Why am I not surprised that you refer to Democrats as "THEY"? Starboard Tack Jan 2013 #15

no surprise samsingh Jan 2013 #4

The NRA will use any comment by any politician who mentions banning or confiscating ... spin Jan 2013 #9

Well said. Pullo Jan 2013 #10

gunnuts anonymous - I was an nra member jimmy the one Jan 2013 #11

I'm a lifer with the NRA, membership was $500 back when it was 'gifted' to me. Now life mem Purveyor Jan 2013 #14

bunch of dumbasses. what do they know? nothing. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2013 #12

NRA approval 42%, disapproval 45% , PPP jimmy the one Jan 2013 #13

Amazing how quickly the stables are refilled. Hercules, Hercules, wherefore art thou! nt jody Jan 2013 #19

LOL! Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #39

That means about 349.9 million citizens did NOT join the NRA Trajan Jan 2013 #26

See #36. Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #40

Why do I need to read #36? Trajan Jan 2013 #45

It also means that 90%+ of the firearms owners in the USA still aren't NRA members Xithras Jan 2013 #103

I'm sure the NRA will be publishing its membership directory soon.... rgbecker Jan 2013 #27

According to some reports the Brady Campaign sold a list of their members ... spin Jan 2013 #36

According to some reports thucythucy Jan 2013 #81

from the one foundation that pays their salaries and rent gejohnston Jan 2013 #83

Actually, no. thucythucy Jan 2013 #85

they get four million a year gejohnston Jan 2013 #87

It's late, and I'm getting a little bleary here. thucythucy Jan 2013 #92

that is because they told the FEC gejohnston Jan 2013 #94

"Urban and wealthy..." thucythucy Jan 2013 #100

I can relate in some ways gejohnston Jan 2013 #104

Just wanted to say thucythucy Jan 2013 #106

same here, gejohnston Jan 2013 #107

never underestimate the stupidity of the American Gun Nut...... bowens43 Jan 2013 #51

In a country of over $300 milion, that 100k Still Sensible Jan 2013 #76

Exactly. Huffington's loves to tabloid stories still_one Jan 2013 #102

Am I supposed to believe this? thucythucy Jan 2013 #79

Believe or not but the gun sale reports would seem to confirm... eom Purveyor Jan 2013 #86

Yeah, it confirms that a certain segment of our population thucythucy Jan 2013 #89

No argument from on that from me... eom Purveyor Jan 2013 #91

Surge? That amounts to .03% of the us population. What is the other still_one Jan 2013 #101

Obama supporters? HockeyMom Jan 2013 #105

Eleanors wrote about 'Arms' circa 1791 jimmy the one Jan 2013 #108

I have to say that the NRA has shown their evil side recently. hrmjustin Jan 2013 #115

Since I posted this...now they are 'claiming' over a quarter of a million new sign-ups? eom Purveyor Jan 2013 #116

They won't say how much they have lost. It makes me sick that people would join this group. hrmjustin Jan 2013 #117