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In reply to the discussion: With Weaker Laws, More Guns Are Being Trafficked to Criminals [View all]spin
(17,493 posts)3. I find it strange that the Fraternal Order of Police supports the Tiahrt Amendments...
if it is indeed so good for law enforcement.
Tiahrt Amendment
Tiahrt is the author of the Tiahrt Amendment, which prohibits the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) from releasing information from its firearms trace database to anyone other than a law enforcement agency or prosecutor in connection with a criminal investigation. Additionally, any data so released is inadmissible in a civil lawsuit.[2] Some groups, including the Mayors Against Illegal Guns Coalition, believe that having further access to the ATF database would help municipal police departments track down sellers of illegal guns and curb crime. These groups are trying to undo the Tiahrt Amendment.[3] Conversely, the Tiahrt Amendment is supported by the Fraternal Order of Police, as it allows municipal police departments full access to ATF trace data in any criminal investigation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Tiahrt
I found out why when I read this letter:
Letter to Appropriations Subcommittee in support of Tiahrt Amendment 04/19/2007
The Honorable Alan B. Mollohan and Rodney Frelinghuysen
Chairman and Ranking Member
Subcommittee on Commerce, Justice, Science and Related Agencies
Committee on Appropriations
U.S. House of Representatives
Washington, D.C. 20515
Dear Mr. Chairman and Representative Frelinghuysen,
I am writing on behalf of the membership of the Fraternal Order of Police to express our strong support for the inclusion of language in the FY 2008 Commerce, Justice, Science and Related Agencies appropriations bill to prohibit disclosure of firearms trace data by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) firearms to non-law enforcement entities.
The FOP has supported this language since the original version was first enacted several years ago because of our concern for the safety of law enforcement officers and the integrity of law enforcement investigations. For example, the disclosure of trace requests can inadvertently reveal the names of undercover officers or informants, endangering their safety. It may also tip off the target of an investigation, as appears to be the case in New York City. According to media reports last year, law enforcement sources cited that as many as "four cases were compromised and an additional 14 were put at risk" by private investigators employed by the city who acted on the basis of trace data. In this case, the investigators conducted "sting" operations for the city's civil suit against several gun stores that had been identified through firearms trace data. As a result, several gun trafficking suspects under investigation by law enforcement changed their behavior to avoid scrutiny. This is exactly the type of interference that caused the FOP to originally support language restricting the use of the data to law enforcement....emphasis added
While we recognize that court decisions have reduced the effectiveness of this provision by allowing disclosure of trace data in civil suits, we continue to believe that its inclusion is extremely important and, on behalf of our more than 325,000 members, we urge that it be included in the bill when it is introduced. Thank you in advance for considering our view on this issue. Please do not hesitate to contact me or Executive Director Jim Pasco if I can be of any further assistance.
Sincerely,
Chuck Canterbury
National President
http://www.fop.net/servlet/display/news_article?id=411&XSL=xsl_pages%2Fpublic_news_individual.xsl
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"There's less tracking of guns! See, here's this case study where we track some guns to prove it!"
X_Digger
Jan 2012
#2
"there was no Tiahrt amendment-related spike in the number of guns used in crimes that were sold"
Atypical Liberal
Jan 2012
#4
I find it strange that the Fraternal Order of Police supports the Tiahrt Amendments...
spin
Jan 2012
#3
Nothing pro-gunners dislike more than peer-reviewed research from a major university.
DanTex
Jan 2012
#10