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tama

(9,137 posts)
30. Very well
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 04:21 PM
Jan 2013

Layers disagree and twist their interpretations as is their profession, and no harm done becoming educated of those arguments. More generally, the question between "well regulated militia" vs "standing army" is very important. Little search brought this article:

http://www.kortexplores.com/node/110

Small excerpt:

The members of Congress had good reason to fear their own army only a little less than they feared the British. True to form, at the close of the war against the British, the officer corps of the Continental Army did attempt to betray the principles they had sworn to defend when they plotted to install Washington as monarch.

The moment when Washington refused the crown offered by the officer corps is possibly the single most critical moment in our nation's history. Every other revolution before and since has inevitably faced just such a moment of truth, and in every other case freedom and liberty have been betrayed. But Washington was a truly great man capable of vision far beyond his own personal interests.

In stark contrast to the lesser individuals who made up the officer corps, Washington truly believed in the principles he professed, and understood that those principles were far more important than the short sighted self-interest that so dominated the rest of the officer corps. Freedom survived the attempted treason of the officer corps only because Washington did what was unthinkable to the rest of the army leadership - he refused to betray his principles for personal gain.

Popular history continues to admit that Washington turned down the crown, but focuses entirely on the significance of Washington's actions and the personal integrity he demonstrated in refusing this great honor. Little attention is given to the hard fact that in spite of every effort by the Continental Congress, even the patriots who had gone to war to defend freedom and liberty were unable to resist the temptations of power.

While the attempted treason of the Colonial Army officer corps gets little attention from modern promilitary revisionists, it didn't go entirely unnoticed when it came time to write the Constitution and Bill of Rights. The attempted betrayal of the officer corps had confirmed the view that maintaining a standing army was too dangerous for a free nation to risk. The only military force that would not turn on the citizenry was one composed of the citizens themselves - a citizen militia.


I don't necessarily agree with all the conclusions of the article, but it's also clear that NDAA is just another step in the long and gradual "military coup" by standing army and MIC, of which an US president warned more than 50 years ago. And as standing army (not all soldiers, but the institution) serves in the end those who pay them, they serve the banks and financial industry that can create money at will.

BTW I just read that in Ecuador a small tribe is ready to go all the way to defend their children's right for livable environment, against oil industry, government and army.

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right there with the part that says america is a christian nation. rurallib Jan 2013 #1
Why would it need to? n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2013 #2
Are you planning on... krispos42 Jan 2013 #3
does the admin agree with your definition of Spam? Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2013 #6
Dunno. I didn't ask and they didn't tell. n/t krispos42 Jan 2013 #7
well, there is something about spam in the ToS, I think. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2013 #22
"Free state" nt my boy x dog Jan 2013 #4
Free Staters are nut jobs jpak Jan 2013 #20
you say "new Gun Nut line" chicoguy Jan 2013 #5
And another insightful and well thought out post by the anti gun zealots rl6214 Jan 2013 #8
"well regulated militia" - regulated by the government. guardian Jan 2013 #9
Just who exactly do you think was doing the regulating?? jmg257 Jan 2013 #10
irrelevant guardian Jan 2013 #11
Irrelevant?! The Constitution is hardly "irrelevant"...and has many more words... jmg257 Jan 2013 #12
What do people subscribing to your beliefs make of, say, the Regulators of North Carolina? Democracyinkind Jan 2013 #16
Well run, efficient, smooth operating? That's how the Regulators would define it. hack89 Jan 2013 #17
The Regulators of North Carolina were not in favor of new rules and regulations? Democracyinkind Jan 2013 #23
No - their issue was the corrupt enforcement of those rules hack89 Jan 2013 #24
... one guided by rules? Democracyinkind Jan 2013 #28
Regulate refers to the desired end state hack89 Jan 2013 #29
The entire Constitution ... holdencaufield Jan 2013 #13
being necessary to the security of a free State obviously has nothing to do with govt. tyranny bubbayugga Jan 2013 #14
1828 definition of well regulated (takeII) jimmy the one Jan 2013 #15
Nice post safeinOhio Jan 2013 #18
It also meant well trained and equipped. hack89 Jan 2013 #25
You need to post this over at AR15.com ileus Jan 2013 #19
Bran! Remmah2 Jan 2013 #21
From wiki tama Jan 2013 #26
Scalia knows more about guns than money minded hamilton jimmy the one Jan 2013 #27
Very well tama Jan 2013 #30
It doesn't. Neither does the first amendment. Next question. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #31
The Second Amendment was created to control slaves, their escape and their uprisings. TxVietVet Jan 2013 #32
according to a Handgun Control Incorporated board member gejohnston Jan 2013 #34
Its right there in the authorization clause. N/T beevul Jan 2013 #33
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