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DreWId

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14. Thanks for clarifying
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 04:52 PM
Jan 2013

What do you mean 'more lethal', can you explain, please? What is the firing rate of a .25 ACP? I have a difficult time picturing a butcher knife able to maim at the same rate as a gun (or for that matter, any bladed, close-combat weapon matching the firing rate and range of any gun, but I digress)

And with that paragraph what you're saying is that even with lesser gun laws the UK still had less homicide by gun?


As for the Japan statistics, I'm not quite understanding your analogies at the beginning. When you say "only count legal guns", I would assume that the U.S. numbers also only count legal guns. Even if that weren't the case, we are still looking at a lesser homicide by gun rate in Japan than the US, aren't we?
The last part of that paragraph is part of the overall picture of violence/homicide [subsection: guns] as it pertains to culture and cultural identity, right? I suppose we could look back to the 1950s US of gun ownership versus wealth inequality versus violence, as well. And if what you say is true about the Japanese judicial system, according to the statistics you presented, Japan still only has a punitivity ratio of .898 compared to the US's 1.471 (even moreso compared to the UK's punitivity ratio of .049).

But information like that doesn't quite fit a meme or bumper sticker, does it. lol

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UK vs US, violent crime meme [View all] DreWId Jan 2013 OP
I am interested in this issue also as my s-i-l handed me a bunch of RW talking points about how jwirr Jan 2013 #1
What about Japan? DreWId Jan 2013 #3
I saw that on PBS this morning libodem Jan 2013 #4
how many murders total? gejohnston Jan 2013 #6
I only remember the one year being 8 libodem Jan 2013 #17
I lived in Japan gejohnston Jan 2013 #5
In summation DreWId Jan 2013 #9
Japan is also monocultural. GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #30
Okay, he did not mention them. jwirr Jan 2013 #8
here is one that compares the OECD countries gejohnston Jan 2013 #2
So what we are to surmise is? DreWId Jan 2013 #7
so many logical fallacies, so little time. gejohnston Jan 2013 #11
Thanks for clarifying DreWId Jan 2013 #14
you are welcome gejohnston Jan 2013 #18
It's so nice to have a discussion that doesn't devolve into talking points DreWId Jan 2013 #20
I try gejohnston Jan 2013 #23
a man named EarthWindFire Jan 2013 #10
Proof? DreWId Jan 2013 #12
ok sorry EarthWindFire Jan 2013 #15
I'm not sure I get it DreWId Jan 2013 #21
this video EarthWindFire Jan 2013 #22
it all depends on the definitions stevebrt Jan 2013 #13
My point exactly DreWId Jan 2013 #16
Watch the video at this site. .... spin Jan 2013 #19
Their reporting is entirely different. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #24
hierarchy rules jimmy the one Jan 2013 #25
costs of gunshot treatment US jimmy the one Jan 2013 #26
The US has by far the highest homicide rate of any developed nation. DanTex Jan 2013 #27
DreWId UK vs US, violent gun crime meme reply - US more violent by far, see link James Mahogany Feb 2013 #28
DreWId UK vs US, violent gun crime meme reply - US more violent by far, see link (revised) James Mahogany Feb 2013 #29
some numbers guardian Feb 2013 #31
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