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gejohnston

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23. I try
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 06:34 PM
Jan 2013
As for this statement, what you mean to say is that even with more guns in the UK, there were still less murders overall? When did the UK start enacting stricter gun control measures? Could you source it, please?
Here is a basic overview.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_the_United_Kingdom

Okay, let's make that safe bet, but that compares to this mother jones article (again, I hesitate to use any news source versus a statistical data source, so I am assuming their chart/reporting is correct - so, disclaimer noted.) which states 49 killers involved in mass shootings since 1982 obtained their guns legally.
Clackamas mall stole his, 1999 school shooters were minors in possession, and their straw buyer went to federal prison. Don't know about the rest. Of course, those are mental health issues more than gun law issues since such events were almost unheard of before 1980. Whitmann had a brain tumor. The bigger issue is the everyday criminals killing each other and hitting innocents in the crossfire. You can thank Nixon starting and everyone else continuing the WOD on that one.


Can you provide your source?
IIRC, it was a printed source I read some time ago, I'll see if I can find it.


How many of Japan's prisons are privately-owned as well? Certainly (my assumption) the incarceration rate doesn't help the overall Culture as it pertains to economic and educational opportunities.
probably zero, which is as it should be
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UK vs US, violent crime meme [View all] DreWId Jan 2013 OP
I am interested in this issue also as my s-i-l handed me a bunch of RW talking points about how jwirr Jan 2013 #1
What about Japan? DreWId Jan 2013 #3
I saw that on PBS this morning libodem Jan 2013 #4
how many murders total? gejohnston Jan 2013 #6
I only remember the one year being 8 libodem Jan 2013 #17
I lived in Japan gejohnston Jan 2013 #5
In summation DreWId Jan 2013 #9
Japan is also monocultural. GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #30
Okay, he did not mention them. jwirr Jan 2013 #8
here is one that compares the OECD countries gejohnston Jan 2013 #2
So what we are to surmise is? DreWId Jan 2013 #7
so many logical fallacies, so little time. gejohnston Jan 2013 #11
Thanks for clarifying DreWId Jan 2013 #14
you are welcome gejohnston Jan 2013 #18
It's so nice to have a discussion that doesn't devolve into talking points DreWId Jan 2013 #20
I try gejohnston Jan 2013 #23
a man named EarthWindFire Jan 2013 #10
Proof? DreWId Jan 2013 #12
ok sorry EarthWindFire Jan 2013 #15
I'm not sure I get it DreWId Jan 2013 #21
this video EarthWindFire Jan 2013 #22
it all depends on the definitions stevebrt Jan 2013 #13
My point exactly DreWId Jan 2013 #16
Watch the video at this site. .... spin Jan 2013 #19
Their reporting is entirely different. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #24
hierarchy rules jimmy the one Jan 2013 #25
costs of gunshot treatment US jimmy the one Jan 2013 #26
The US has by far the highest homicide rate of any developed nation. DanTex Jan 2013 #27
DreWId UK vs US, violent gun crime meme reply - US more violent by far, see link James Mahogany Feb 2013 #28
DreWId UK vs US, violent gun crime meme reply - US more violent by far, see link (revised) James Mahogany Feb 2013 #29
some numbers guardian Feb 2013 #31
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