Gun Control & RKBA

DanTex

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64. When did Europe had gun laws like Vermont? In the 19th century?

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 07:43 PM

Jan 2012

Is that really all you can muster? I guess when there are a total of zero present-day developed nations with sane gun laws and a level of homicide anywhere close to the US, you need to really stretch to find "evidence" to supporting your cause, which is why pro-gunners always seem to want to compare the present day with a century ago, or compare the US with Mexico, or whatever other preposterous comparison NRA-ILA has served up. LOL.

As far as a jurisdiction that strengthened gun laws recently, the one that comes to mind is Australia, which was indeed followed by a decrease in murder and gun violence.

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Legislators push new law to ban guns in public places [View all] SecularMotion Jan 2012 OP

Prediction: Their bill will be ignored. GreenStormCloud Jan 2012 #1

Well once you add in... liberal_biker Jan 2012 #2

great post YllwFvr Jan 2012 #32

Does this count as a "win" for gun control? DonP Jan 2012 #3

Good to see Democrats SecularMotion Jan 2012 #6

You mean the "weak laws" that have resulted in the lowest violent crime rate in 40 years? DonP Jan 2012 #7

"Bumper sticker on your neighbor's Prius" SecularMotion Jan 2012 #8

No.... liberal_biker Jan 2012 #9

"over its projected lifespan, it is less fuel efficient than a lot of SUVs." DanTex Jan 2012 #15

could be based on resources needed to make one gejohnston Jan 2012 #16

The article you linked to is called "Prius Versus HUMMER: Exploding the Myth", DanTex Jan 2012 #19

first thing that came up gejohnston Jan 2012 #24

I don't know where you live gejohnston Jan 2012 #10

Around here.... liberal_biker Jan 2012 #11

Truly liberal people don't support gun control ObamaFTW2012 Jan 2012 #12

No response to the question - just a nose well up in the air DonP Jan 2012 #13

You're a fool if you equate gun ownership with support for weaker gun laws SecularMotion Jan 2012 #17

Wow, using a lawyer gun grabber page as if it were a legit reference, who'd a thought! DonP Jan 2012 #18

Keep dreamin' SecularMotion Jan 2012 #20

A 3 year old Google post is your idea of gun control winning? DonP Jan 2012 #30

Gun regulations were strengthened in the last 30-40 years. SecularMotion Jan 2012 #33

25 years ago 16 states banned concealed carry - today only one state bans it. hack89 Jan 2012 #34

That's true, if you're looking at it from the right wing SecularMotion Jan 2012 #37

I can live with "defeats" like that hack89 Jan 2012 #42

What about all the Dems that voted for concealed carry? DonP Jan 2012 #43

The wave of legislation to weaken concealed carry laws comes from the right wing SecularMotion Jan 2012 #44

No it doesn't But you keep thinking that meme. DonP Jan 2012 #46

The fact that a small number of Democrats have voted for legislation SecularMotion Jan 2012 #47

"A small number"? DonP Jan 2012 #49

Have you checked the co-sponsors on many of these bills? X_Digger Jan 2012 #48

in a few places gejohnston Jan 2012 #39

The NRA and the right-wing in general. DanTex Jan 2012 #23

you need to travel outside the US more gejohnston Jan 2012 #40

When did Europe had gun laws like Vermont? In the 19th century? DanTex Jan 2012 #64

between the world wars gejohnston Jan 2012 #65

Do you really not understand? DanTex Jan 2012 #66

Not just Mexico, every country gejohnston Jan 2012 #67

Russia! LOL! The hits just keep on coming! DanTex Jan 2012 #68

I can tell the difference gejohnston Jan 2012 #70

"All gunsandcrime did was reprint other's work" = False DanTex Jan 2012 #71

can you give examples gejohnston Jan 2012 #72

"Progressives are just as prone to mindless groupthink as anyone else." ellisonz Jan 2012 #73

as soon as you explain gejohnston Jan 2012 #75

I think progressives are far more reasonable than conservatives. ellisonz Jan 2012 #76

I think progressives are far more reasonable than reactionaries gejohnston Jan 2012 #77

I think libertarianism is inherently right-wing. ellisonz Jan 2012 #78

not a Chomsky fan? gejohnston Jan 2012 #79

Nope. ellisonz Jan 2012 #80

I would like to see something less biased gejohnston Jan 2012 #22

The polls I've seen show a bigger liberal/conservative split DanTex Jan 2012 #25

I would like to see one that gejohnston Jan 2012 #26

OK, but this poll still shows a bigger Dem/Rep split versus urban/rural. DanTex Jan 2012 #27

Haven't seen the latest gallup polling, have you? X_Digger Jan 2012 #29

Buying a Prius shows bumper sticker logic, I think was the point. Callisto32 Jan 2012 #35

and is actually gejohnston Jan 2012 #38

Now why wouldn't they want guns in child-care centers? Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #4

to make it easier to gejohnston Jan 2012 #41

Oh right, how silly of me. All those daycare center kidnappings. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #52

I was more clear than that gejohnston Jan 2012 #55

No I didn't know that. Maybe it was your use of the word grab Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #56

"I'm just here to grab that kid, and by the way, I'm armed!" DanTex Jan 2012 #69

"no reason, justification" Atypical Liberal Jan 2012 #5

I'm sure members of gun culture have all kinds of reasons to carry a gun into child-care centers. Hoyt Jan 2012 #14

Why is that Hoyt and Starboard think ManiacJoe Jan 2012 #28

Protected? Not another law enforcement wannabee carrier. If it's my kids, I'd rather Hoyt Jan 2012 #31

MWAHAHAHAHA. Callisto32 Jan 2012 #36

"shooting silhouette targets and posing in front of mirrors." rl6214 Jan 2012 #51

Hoyt loves his little "Catch 22" DonP Jan 2012 #53

Be honest now. Never stood in front of a mirror with your gun out? Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #54

Honestly? rl6214 Jan 2012 #58

Well, how smart is that? Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #82

"Remember, a gunfight is like ballet." rl6214 Jan 2012 #86

Who's this 'we'? X_Digger Jan 2012 #60

Everday podna! Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #81

Yes, I practice drawing my sidearm. PavePusher Jan 2012 #62

Hoyt, your posts are always good for a laugh. ManiacJoe Jan 2012 #63

Typical answer from the anti gun zealots rl6214 Jan 2012 #50

"anti gun zealots"? Now take a deep breath! Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #57

But I suppose you think "gun militants" sounds reasonable? rl6214 Jan 2012 #59

How many guns is enough? n/t ellisonz Jan 2012 #74

You are asking a person that has told you that I have a curio & relic license and collect firearms rl6214 Jan 2012 #84

I can understand you feeling intimidated by our neighbor from the north. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #83

sometimes she does have valid points gejohnston Jan 2012 #85

Intimidation? rl6214 Jan 2012 #87

Someone who thinks that public parks should have high walls, metal detectors, and guards.. X_Digger Jan 2012 #61

Safety first, I never go in to pick up the kids without my EDC ileus Jan 2012 #21

unintended consequences my ass aikoaiko Jan 2012 #45