Legislators push new law to ban guns in public places

[DanTex]

66. Do you really not understand?

Using Mexico's tight gun control and high gun violence relative to the US to argue against gun laws is plainly silly. In the same way that trying to use the fact that the US delivers better health care than Mexico to argue in favor of private vs public health care systems would be. If you're interested in policy options for a modern-day developed nation like the US, obviously the most relevant datapoints come from other modern-day developed nations.

Re: Australia, it's not that "both sides overstate their case". It's that the gun militants who claim that the buyback increased crime are simply lying. The fact of the matter is that the homicide rate in Australia dropped. If you want, you can try and argue that this was not caused by the change in law, that it was a coincidence or that it was a continuation of a pre-existing trend. But you can't argue that gun violence went up after the change in law, because it went down.

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/research/hicrc/files/bulletins_australia_spring_2011.pdf