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In reply to the discussion: When the price of individualism is just too high [View all]Straw Man
(6,952 posts)202. Facts.
Last edited Sat Feb 16, 2013, 02:38 AM - Edit history (1)
Every gun that entered the market after 1968 is in some FFL's bound book somewhere. Tracking is possible
WRONG. Tracking is possible on some guns, some times. Not every gun is possible to be tracked.
Wrong? How am I wrong if you yourself admit that some guns can be tracked?
I never said every gun could be tracked. I said that every gun that entered the market after 1968 is traceable at least as far as its first sale. The GCA required dealers to be licensed and keep records. The bound book is a legal document, and FFLs are responsible for the accuracy of its contents.
You do realize that there is no such thing as an "unlicensed dealer," don't you? Not after the GCA. Non-licensees can sell their own personal firearms in-state, but if they do it as a business they aren't "unlicensed dealers" -- they are gun traffickers, and the ATF treats them accordingly, if and when they catch them.
Yes, I am sure that the police of XYZ City in XYZ State will have access to your "bound book" and the information contained therein. Just how exactly are they going to accomplish that?
Yes, in fact they will. Through the ATF. It's part of their mission.
http://www.policechiefmagazine.org/magazine/index.cfm?fuseaction=display_arch&article_id=2009&issue_id=22010
Every fact I have stated in this thread is verifiable. I would suggest that you pay closer attention to exactly what I'm saying before concluding that I'm "wrong." It would also help if you would educate yourself on what the laws and procedures actually are.
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On you #1 (The reinstitution of the prohibition on the ownership of assault weapons) the AWB
kelly1mm
Dec 2012
#2
So that law needs to be clarified. Threwill be a bill before trhenext Congress to do just that. nt
Thats my opinion
Dec 2012
#16
Relying on me to call the ATF is proof that it is not "strictly regulated." nt.
OrwellwasRight
Dec 2012
#47
Does the Amendment grant the Congress regulatory power over internal policing?
Glaug-Eldare
Dec 2012
#77
Yes, because the federal government has not chosen to go farther, which is exactly the point
OrwellwasRight
Dec 2012
#83
No, I claim to know about a friend who said he bought a gun with no background check or registration
OrwellwasRight
Feb 2013
#106
No, the problem is people can buy gins in bedrooms, on the internet, at gun shows, and from the
OrwellwasRight
Feb 2013
#138
His last post was JAN 21. You posted TODAY, FEB 9. Thats nearly 3 WEEKS later!
cleanhippie
Feb 2013
#126
So why the need to try and call him out for "having to have the last word"?
cleanhippie
Feb 2013
#129
If you found insult in my posts, you need to reevaluate your sensitivty level.
cleanhippie
Feb 2013
#134
oh right, that's why the veiled reference about the ATF stopping international intrigue?
OrwellwasRight
Feb 2013
#215
I use my defense weapon when someone is using their assault weapon. Looks like this
Tuesday Afternoon
Dec 2012
#13
Thanks for the clarification. I am trying to find my way around this issue. nt
Thats my opinion
Dec 2012
#18
a person with a gun in his hand who shoots and kills someone has disolved the space
Thats my opinion
Dec 2012
#31
Baloney. You're just as much in favor of individualization as the next guy.
slackmaster
Dec 2012
#14
Are you saying thqt ll laws whbich inhibit my action are collectivisic.
Thats my opinion
Dec 2012
#28
No, he is not seeking a solution in faith, he is placing blame on those without it.
cleanhippie
Dec 2012
#57
Wait, I thought you said it was "human unfaithfulness" that caused this shooting.
cleanhippie
Dec 2012
#55
"We don’t allow civilians to purchase or own machine guns" - actually 'we' do...
PoliticAverse
Jan 2013
#101
to be an individual is be the subset of a set. without the individual there is no set. how the
Tuesday Afternoon
Feb 2013
#123
Personally, I do not think that anything you propose will curtail gun violence.
geckosfeet
Feb 2013
#127