Legislators push new law to ban guns in public places

[gejohnston]

77. I think progressives are far more reasonable than reactionaries

which kind of makes up most of the GOP. I don't see any of those people of those people running as actual conservatives other than Mitty. It is a continuum. That is why I ask you to clarify between left and right wing libertarians. I did not say that progressives or liberals are not nor do I think I said they were equal, simply that they are not immune to group think. There are faux liberals (and faux conservatives) who are more dependent on the image of being without really internalizing and living the values. That is where you find the same bigotry, different other. How is bashing Hicks, Mormons, etc any better than bashing gays, or whoever else?

That isn't your position? OK, maybe not yours personally but many on your side do put it that way. Don't forget irresponsible police departments, they get ripped off too. Although there is Park County cops (forgot the state) and NYPD that actually sold sub machine guns on the black market. I am old enough to remember when gangs did not have guns other than homemade zip guns. They made do with knives and tire chains. Was it gun laws? no. Price of guns drop? no, adjusting for inflation they are about the same. There was not much money in stealing hubcaps and petty rackets. Then the WoD came along, and the profits. That is why I say the typical bong owner (unless you grow your own or get certified violence free.) and coke/meth head is more contributes more to gang violence (regardless of weapon) than all of the gun owners combined.