Gun Control & RKBA

BainsBane

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54. that's why LaPierre opposes background checks

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 02:54 AM

Feb 2013

He and the rest of the gun lobby wants to ensure criminals maintain access to guns.

The point is it makes guns more difficult for them to obtain and more expensive. That, of course is the problem for the gun lobby. They want criminals to have steady access to guns because they are a major profit stream. That is the only reason they could possibly resist background checks. LaPierre said as much before congress. "Criminals won't submit to background checks." Yes, that's exactly what he fears: decreased gun sales.

Also the fact is more deaths result from self injury, domestic murders, and accidents than murders by people with prior felony convictions. But you know that.

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lol, Meta is where the accusation tool place! krispos42 Feb 2013 #24

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as opposed to the 38,000 BainsBane Feb 2013 #29

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deal with the root cause gejohnston Feb 2013 #35

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yes BainsBane Feb 2013 #34

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that's why LaPierre opposes background checks BainsBane Feb 2013 #54

Criminals do not buy their guns from FFLs. GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #55

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Take it up with the Supreme Court. Common Sense Party Feb 2013 #59

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