Gun Control & RKBA

GreenStormCloud

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55. Criminals do not buy their guns from FFLs.

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 06:27 AM

Feb 2013

Mostly they get them by theft, or straw purchase.

Suicides by guns do outnumber all other types of gun deaths, but I am not worried about that. If a person wants to quit living that is their right.

Gun accidents are at an all-time low.

Domestic murderers amost always have prior convictions. It is extremely rare for a person to commit murder as a first offense. Please not that "rare" does not equal "never".

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Ann Arbor and Ypsilanti mayors support assault weapons ban, stricter gun laws [View all] SecularMotion Feb 2013 OP

So what's the felony count for Maig up to these days? clffrdjk Feb 2013 #1

You need some fresh NRA talking points. That one's getting stale SecularMotion Feb 2013 #2

Since one... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2013 #3

I would consider a claim of tyranny against MAIG to be more NRA "swill" SecularMotion Feb 2013 #4

Should I... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2013 #6

do outline the tyranny for us BainsBane Feb 2013 #39

Do highlight for us... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2013 #41

You oppose MAIG BainsBane Feb 2013 #43

Actually... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2013 #48

Mayors Against Illegal Guns is merely their name. GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #49

Maybe we could start again discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2013 #67

If my point is stale, out of date, weak shouldn't you be well practiced at defeating it? clffrdjk Feb 2013 #5

Your NRA talking point is an irrelevant comment. SecularMotion Feb 2013 #7

Wait I though call outs were in violation of the rules? clffrdjk Feb 2013 #8

You're spinning out of control. SecularMotion Feb 2013 #9

It's clear blue and a million, I'm a touch over Va with plenty of altitude clffrdjk Feb 2013 #13

Whether a few years... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2013 #27

Why are you here? etherealtruth Feb 2013 #45

It's not the reference to the NRA clffrdjk Feb 2013 #61

...but, what drew you to a site dedicated to the values espoused by the Democratic Party? etherealtruth Feb 2013 #63

Go fish elswhere clffrdjk Feb 2013 #64

So you have none? RetroLounge Feb 2013 #65

You have claimed to enjoy constructive discourse ... ? etherealtruth Feb 2013 #66

because he has nothing else Duckhunter935 Feb 2013 #10

So you unilaterally get to decide which of the oppositions points are irrelevant and thus don't... krispos42 Feb 2013 #14

Your comment may be more relevant to this discussion SecularMotion Feb 2013 #15

Maybe you could comment on... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2013 #16

Josh Sugarmann has been a target of the NRA SecularMotion Feb 2013 #18

I'll just take that as a yes and... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2013 #19

I'll take that as an attempt to smear Josh Sugarmann SecularMotion Feb 2013 #21

Josh Sugarmann discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2013 #23

1-54-000-01-8C-00725 gejohnston Feb 2013 #25

Then I can depend on you supporting me.. krispos42 Feb 2013 #20

I think Meta-discussion would be more appropriate for further discussion. SecularMotion Feb 2013 #22

lol, Meta is where the accusation tool place! krispos42 Feb 2013 #24

So what is the assertion here BainsBane Feb 2013 #28

I hope you clean up all that straw when you are done. clffrdjk Feb 2013 #37

You could just answer the question BainsBane Feb 2013 #38

No clffrdjk Feb 2013 #42

I read what is posted BainsBane Feb 2013 #44

I think you replied to the wrong post. n/t krispos42 Feb 2013 #40

The NRA says water is wet. Remmah2 Feb 2013 #12

Has the mayor of Trenton gone to trial yet? gejohnston Feb 2013 #11

as opposed to the 38,000 BainsBane Feb 2013 #29

Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #31

60% are suicides BainsBane Feb 2013 #32

deal with the root cause gejohnston Feb 2013 #35

90% of suicides by gun are completed BainsBane Feb 2013 #36

Guns and pills are NOT the only methods of suicide. GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #50

14 and counting so far. Clames Feb 2013 #57

Of course the want control over their subjects. ileus Feb 2013 #17

and you instead want those of us who live in cities BainsBane Feb 2013 #30

so, you are blaming rural people for your problems? gejohnston Feb 2013 #33

yes BainsBane Feb 2013 #34

But we hear constantly that there has to be national gun control laws hack89 Feb 2013 #56

So you want gun control only in cities? ileus Feb 2013 #46

Do you really think that criminals would pay any attention to gun laws? N/T GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #51

that's why LaPierre opposes background checks BainsBane Feb 2013 #54

Criminals do not buy their guns from FFLs. GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #55

You certainly claim to know a lot about criminals BainsBane Feb 2013 #58

Put the strawman back in the barn. GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #60

Are you subject to DAILY GUNFIRE? Really?? Common Sense Party Feb 2013 #52

What do you think Heller was about? BainsBane Feb 2013 #53

Take it up with the Supreme Court. Common Sense Party Feb 2013 #59

Impose our fetish on you? iiibbb Feb 2013 #62

Excellent! Another small step back from the abyss. Starboard Tack Feb 2013 #26

To paraphrase Joseph Stalin: SayWut Feb 2013 #47