Gun Control & RKBA

gejohnston

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48. you misunderstand Cruishank

Wed Mar 27, 2013, 01:18 PM

Mar 2013

it said the same thing about the 1st Amendment. What it basically said that the BoR (in this case, the 1st and 2d Amendments) applied only to the federal law, that a state can limit any of them as they wanted.

The First Amendment right to assembly was not intended to limit the powers of the State governments in respect to their own citizens and the Second Amendment has no other effect than to restrict the powers of the national government.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Cruikshank

The same ruling also made the civil rights laws in that era unenforceable.

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Addressing a Conservative on Gun Control [View all] Ravajava Mar 2013 OP

First thought, it's too long Trunk Monkey Mar 2013 #1

Perhaps Ravajava Mar 2013 #2

Be nice if you actually understood the issue more than you display in the video. Clames Mar 2013 #5

Judging from the response Ravajava Mar 2013 #10

Uh huh. Clames Mar 2013 #12

It should be known Ravajava Mar 2013 #16

That's a poor interpretation. Clames Mar 2013 #17

The "modern invention" meme is easily disproved. Please read more and report back . hansberrym Mar 2013 #18

right... Ravajava Mar 2013 #19

Amend 2A out of the Constitution? LOL. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #23

As I said Ravajava Mar 2013 #34

What nonsense. Recent my ass. beevul Mar 2013 #26

Having read up on this Ravajava Mar 2013 #36

LOL. beevul Mar 2013 #40

2003 Ravajava Mar 2013 #41

you misunderstand Cruishank gejohnston Mar 2013 #48

In that case Ravajava Mar 2013 #50

Right up until Mcdonald became law. beevul Mar 2013 #51

that was before incorporation gejohnston Mar 2013 #52

Uhh.. beevul Mar 2013 #53

The "individual right" interpretation is the original interpretation. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #22

Like Ravajava Mar 2013 #35

If it takes you three hours to explain your position ... holdencaufield Mar 2013 #14

Short arguments Ravajava Mar 2013 #15

It isn't a belief, it's a fact. But your final 7 words are 100% correct. sinister minister Mar 2013 #44

Well I explained in the video the reasoning Ravajava Mar 2013 #45

By posting it down here you sure are addressing more than a few alrighty... apocalypsehow Mar 2013 #3

True Ravajava Mar 2013 #4

"conservative" vs "liberal"? A firearm-owning Democrat who all liberals in this country would AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #31

As a side Note Ravajava Mar 2013 #32

I don't know what "being pro gun" is. I know John Locke expressed it correctly re "natural rights" AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #39

It was long but interesting. The gun control supporter was the more skilled commentator... spin Mar 2013 #6

Thanks :D Ravajava Mar 2013 #7

+1 raidert05 Mar 2013 #8

Sorry, but I lost my patience. Straw Man Mar 2013 #9

I see Ravajava Mar 2013 #11

I got about 12 minutes into it tortoise1956 Mar 2013 #13

Interesting Ravajava Mar 2013 #20

if you have the money to purchase gejohnston Mar 2013 #21

So Ravajava Mar 2013 #30

We get the nuke argument down here from time to time. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #24

The Purpose of the Nuke Argument Ravajava Mar 2013 #33

not so sure about that gejohnston Mar 2013 #37

Hence the problem that needs fixing Ravajava Mar 2013 #42

the ATF brought it on themselves gejohnston Mar 2013 #47

What are you willing to give us that we don't already have? GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #38

Defeating the purpose Ravajava Mar 2013 #43

If you won't give up anything, then why should we? N/T GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #46

In politics Ravajava Mar 2013 #49

Well, to convince him he's wrong you kinda have to be right... Clames Mar 2013 #54

We have different ideas of what compromise is. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #55

Half a fucking hour? rl6214 Mar 2013 #25

Funny you ask Ravajava Mar 2013 #28

Thoughts? 1) Your video is too long. 2) Millions of firearm-owning Democrats are not conservatives. AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #27

I have nothing against owning a gun Ravajava Mar 2013 #29