Gun Control & RKBA

Eleanors38

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40. Sylvi is right. The last 25+ yrs has mainly been about carry laws...

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 10:24 AM

Mar 2013

These laws corrected the old Jim Crow laws in the South, but also recognized the long-"dormant" right to carry the Second guarantees, and which the states cannot deny as per the Fourteenth. That is why the controversy over guns should really be seen as a controversy over the liberalizatiom and recognition of a

Civil right.

But there are some on D.U. who persist in standing in the school house door.

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Why did support for a new AWB slip? Those that want one made the same mistakes the teabaggers did. [View all] friendly_iconoclast Mar 2013 OP

The "extremists" on both sides... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2013 #1

No. Extremists are still the face of the proliferationist side. Those fearful of, and owned by, villager Mar 2013 #2

Agree completely! nonoyes Mar 2013 #4

Exactly so, nonoyes. villager Mar 2013 #5

The only polling that matters mostly happens in polling places, and in legislatures friendly_iconoclast Mar 2013 #6

Like saying because the GOP gerrymandered districts, they represent the "will" of the "majority." villager Mar 2013 #12

With thousands upon thousands of federal, state and local laws sylvi Mar 2013 #21

It's always the "just enforce the laws we have" crowd that inevitably wants to repeal "just one more villager Mar 2013 #23

Really? sylvi Mar 2013 #25

Really. villager Mar 2013 #27

"common sense gun safety laws" being the ones *you* support, no doubt. And therein lies the problem. friendly_iconoclast Mar 2013 #30

And "gun grabbing" being any gun safety law at all, per your NRA rhetorical edicts villager Mar 2013 #42

Did you forget (or deliberately elide) my support for UBC and tougher sanctions on straw purchases.. friendly_iconoclast Mar 2013 #44

Hilarious! The gun apologist projects the "newspeak" term unto others! I guess we just should cede villager Mar 2013 #46

You elide my disdain of the NRA, as well. Once again, my observation that "Factual accuracy... friendly_iconoclast Mar 2013 #47

Sylvi is right. The last 25+ yrs has mainly been about carry laws... Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #40

I thought an AWB was the start of the 'slippery slope' in that NRA argument? jmg257 Mar 2013 #3

lets see skinnytrees Mar 2013 #7

So you are saying the OP is wrong then? jmg257 Mar 2013 #8

half skinnytrees Mar 2013 #10

Maybe He's a 1/4 right..he mentions extremists on both sides? jmg257 Mar 2013 #14

"Our" extremists aren't here at DU. Yours are. friendly_iconoclast Mar 2013 #16

Who cares where extremists show up? Since NONE of them are mine, I could care jmg257 Mar 2013 #19

Uh ohh...here's one...or do you not consider this extreme? jmg257 Mar 2013 #38

Pipe up extra loud when a pro-gunner suggests turning drones loose on anti-gunners. N/T beevul Mar 2013 #39

Ok, will do! In the mean time, hope this clown enjoyed his pizza. jmg257 Mar 2013 #41

+1 Peter cotton Mar 2013 #13

They won't have to. It's not going to happen. friendly_iconoclast Mar 2013 #9

Who says they aren't? Seems there are separate bills or some such now? jmg257 Mar 2013 #15

An AWB was definitely part of a unitary package, until it became clear it wasn't happening. friendly_iconoclast Mar 2013 #18

Oh sure they would, as would lots of other things. But other then yack about it all? jmg257 Mar 2013 #20

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Here's a good example...they're talking about boobs and tits in GD, jmg257 Mar 2013 #29

"Everything they want" in this current round of proposals sylvi Mar 2013 #22

But the OP notes them as "extreme"...ya mean there is a double secret extreme too? jmg257 Mar 2013 #24

There are many extremes between the current state and an outright ban on all firearms. nt sylvi Mar 2013 #31

Yep...multiple extremes...very confusing notion. I guess if you consider ANY jmg257 Mar 2013 #34

Where are these mythical creatures sylvi Mar 2013 #36

Mythical? Its the theme of this thread. You just said it in your last jmg257 Mar 2013 #37

Confusion seems to be the default state sylvi Mar 2013 #43

Hmm...did I ever say guns aren't regulated? Derp. jmg257 Mar 2013 #48

No thanks. sylvi Mar 2013 #49

Got it...many extremes, not sure what they are though. jmg257 Mar 2013 #52

Its the extremists on both sides coupled with other shiny new things ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #11

Agreed. These are neccessary, and should pass friendly_iconoclast Mar 2013 #17

It would have been nice to have that "national conversation on guns and violence" kudzu22 Mar 2013 #32

Neither side wants dialog except on their terms ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #33

If President Obama Jenoch Mar 2013 #35

Some of the the gun Prohibitionists haven't figured out yet they've been played: friendly_iconoclast Mar 2013 #45

Wow. sylvi Mar 2013 #50

Proabably blocked for the term "gun Prohibitionists." nt ZombieHorde Mar 2013 #51

Those that aren't declared gun Prohibitionists don't publicly disagree with those that are. friendly_iconoclast Mar 2013 #53

I was blocked for a "broad brush insult"!!! oneshooter Mar 2013 #54