Gun Control & RKBA

gejohnston

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28. personal attack

Sun Apr 21, 2013, 11:54 AM

Apr 2013

and appeal to authority.
I voted for Obama twice and no. I was disappointed that he didn't give single payer, like myself, a seat at the table but came up with reheated Nixoncare.

There used to be an almost complete scholarly and judicial consensus that the Second Amendment protects only a collective right of the states to maintain militias. That consensus no longer exists — thanks largely to the work over the last 20 years of several leading liberal law professors, who have come to embrace the view that the Second Amendment protects an individual right to own guns.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/06/us/06firearms.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

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The 2nd Amendment will never be repealed. [View all] darkangel218 Apr 2013 OP

I fully support the 2nd amendment as it was written mdavies013 Apr 2013 #1

Actually, youre only partially correct. darkangel218 Apr 2013 #4

Nobody is forgetting anything. gcomeau Apr 2013 #6

Right. So which of the 2 classes of militia codifed in law is "well-regulated"? jmg257 Apr 2013 #81

They are, 18 to 65 y old. darkangel218 Apr 2013 #84

You missed the hint. Let's Start over...2 classes of militia. One is well-regulated, and one isn't. jmg257 Apr 2013 #85

Since the Second Amendment DID NOT confer any right whatsoever, your words carry no weight. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2013 #47

That horse is dead. You can quit beating it. N/T GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #49

its not about repeal veganlush Apr 2013 #2

*crickets* eom BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #11

How is it "explained?" Many times in this group... Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #13

And gay marriage and pot will never be legal, either. bluedigger Apr 2013 #3

Comparing apples with oranges darkangel218 Apr 2013 #5

I'm unimpressed by your supernatural powers of prognostication. bluedigger Apr 2013 #8

The percentage of Americans who own guns continues to decrease and gun massacres continue unabated LonePirate Apr 2013 #7

actually the other modern nation don't ban private ownership of guns gejohnston Apr 2013 #10

Is that so? darkangel218 Apr 2013 #14

I doubt that firearm ownership is decreasing, premium Apr 2013 #34

The trend is towards expanding civil liberities. hack89 Apr 2013 #16

By that logic, crew served weapons for everybody! bluedigger Apr 2013 #23

not that extreme at all really gejohnston Apr 2013 #26

Everything I just said in my post #42 goes double for you. bluedigger Apr 2013 #43

Well how convenient for you to lose interest in discussion sylvi Apr 2013 #61

And people can marry their dogs! hack89 Apr 2013 #35

Correlation is not causation. bluedigger Apr 2013 #42

Are you familiar with the gun control echo chamber? hack89 Apr 2013 #46

That group. CokeMachine Apr 2013 #48

Those do not require constitutional amendments. N/T GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #50

pot was legal until 1937 gejohnston Apr 2013 #51

I am not picking a fight melm00se Apr 2013 #69

no sweat gejohnston Apr 2013 #70

I fully support the 2nd Amendment as the Founders and the courts have intended. BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #9

actually, gejohnston Apr 2013 #12

U.S. v Miller was 1939. But you forget Hickman v Block 1996. BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #17

the circit court in Miller said gejohnston Apr 2013 #21

The 9th Cicuit itself has rejected the States Rights theory espoused in Hickman. hansberrym Apr 2013 #63

Isn't guncite a rightwingwoowoo site? BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #64

no gejohnston Apr 2013 #67

You might also want to read a PBS report on how CONservatives reinvented the 2nd Amendment. BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #20

not a very well written article gejohnston Apr 2013 #22

I would take Jeffrey Toobin's writings over a pro-gun individual's any day. BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #25

personal attack gejohnston Apr 2013 #28

No personal attack. Skin might be too thin, though. BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #31

I know he didn't campaign on it gejohnston Apr 2013 #36

Single-payer advocates don't know the Congress as this president does. BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #38

yeah, gejohnston Apr 2013 #39

So would I. BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #45

How about a cite to a post where gejohnston states he didn't vote for Obama. Marengo Apr 2013 #54

Oh come on. What DUer here would openly admit they didn't vote for Obama on a Democratic Party site? BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #55

What is the basis of your assumption that he didn't? Marengo Apr 2013 #56

He doesn't need you to hold his hand, Marengo. So stop it. BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #57

It's you who doesn't "get the picture"... Marengo Apr 2013 #58

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Still holding his hand. BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #59

Nope, looks like your integrity may be on life support... Marengo Apr 2013 #60

Give it up, Marengo. BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #66

Posing, eh? I suppose it's too much to ask for proof? Marengo Apr 2013 #75

Here's proof: BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #76

LOL!...Well, I guess I'll have your integrity to keep me company... Marengo Apr 2013 #77

actually, you did gejohnston Apr 2013 #62

Who's being dishonest now? BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #65

Jill who? gejohnston Apr 2013 #68

Arguing on the basis of credentials is a fallacy. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2013 #73

Repeal is a rightwing fundraising fantasy. aquart Apr 2013 #15

To the kitten type. darkangel218 Apr 2013 #19

Don't expect a cogent answer. Pro-unregulated-gun-rights advocates have a one-track BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #27

how does a law be unregulated? gejohnston Apr 2013 #29

Since 2006 we haven't had a full-time ATF director, 'member? And the Republicans in Congress are BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #30

there is an acting director gejohnston Apr 2013 #33

The Manchin-Toomey amendment was a JOKE. BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #37

what? gejohnston Apr 2013 #40

Jesus H. Christ. BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #44

people need to understand that the constitution DeadEyeDyck Apr 2013 #18

No, they are not timeless. gcomeau Apr 2013 #24

so, the principal of preserving ones life is DeadEyeDyck Apr 2013 #53

I suppose we could just as likely repeal the 1st Amendment. discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2013 #32

Unorganized militia is a JOKE jimmy the one Apr 2013 #41

You may think it is a joke, but it is still the LAW. N/T GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #52

Still, UNORGANIZED jimmy the one Apr 2013 #71

It is still the law. N/T GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #72

Check out... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2013 #74

Check out 'Abusing Federalist 46' jimmy the one Apr 2013 #78

LOL! discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2013 #79

Madison Henry jimmy the one Apr 2013 #80

In 1791... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2013 #82

everyone armed with pitchforks jimmy the one Apr 2013 #86

thanks discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2013 #87

potowmack insitute gejohnston Apr 2013 #83

I am reminded of the adage... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2013 #88

my favorite quote gejohnston Apr 2013 #89

The Constitution... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2013 #90

People seem to think 'unorganized' means 'not well regulated' kudzu22 Apr 2013 #91