Gun Control & RKBA

Straw Man

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12. Nice rant.

Wed Apr 24, 2013, 11:59 AM

Apr 2013

Unfortunately, it bears no relation to the topic under discussion. The FFL dealers are asking why the state feels it has the right to ask them to operate at a loss. The gun owners are asking how they can comply with the law when the FFLs are unwilling to bear the financial burden of the transaction.

The price cap is unrealistic, and it makes compliance with the law more difficult. Whether this can be attributed to incompetence or calculation is up for discussion.

Child molesters, wife beaters, and violent felons, oh my!

Anyone who uses the term "freedumb" is self-identifying as a propagandist hack with no interest in good-faith discussion. I'm just sayin' ...

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NY SAFE Act: FFLs are refusing to do private-sale transfers. [View all] Straw Man Apr 2013 OP

Wow, two whole gun dealers, huh? Robb Apr 2013 #1

Read the full article. Straw Man Apr 2013 #4

Yeah, they're real rare all right. Robb Apr 2013 #5

Slightly over 2000 FFL dealers. Straw Man Apr 2013 #7

That's the nub of the issue ... DonP Apr 2013 #10

which will just result in people not obeying the law. littlewolf Apr 2013 #23

Yep there just is no way gun control upaloopa Apr 2013 #2

Who is blocking implementation? Straw Man Apr 2013 #6

You posted the OP. They are not going to do upaloopa Apr 2013 #8

Right. Straw Man Apr 2013 #13

There is most likely more to this issue then we find here. upaloopa Apr 2013 #15

I'd love to hear what it is. Straw Man Apr 2013 #17

Don't pull that gunner shit on me! upaloopa Apr 2013 #19

What "gunner shit"? Straw Man Apr 2013 #20

Anyone know the logic behind the $10 maximum fee for the service? Laelth Apr 2013 #3

The cap makes no sense if you want the law to work. Mopar151 Apr 2013 #30

someone without an FFL gejohnston Apr 2013 #32

The is no "$10 maximum" fee for private sales. rdharma Apr 2013 #36

You can say that as many times as you want ... Straw Man Apr 2013 #46

Because legislators are idiots Travis_0004 Apr 2013 #51

lordy lordy guns cant be sold like candybars-our freedumb is gone! sigmasix Apr 2013 #9

Nice rant. Straw Man Apr 2013 #12

The cap price doesn't apply to checks for "private sale checks! rdharma Apr 2013 #37

Wrong. Stop the misinformation. Straw Man Apr 2013 #47

Do you have any Ranch Dressing to go with that post? CokeMachine Apr 2013 #21

I don't believe this -- this legislation was well-thought out and debated prior to passage kudzu22 Apr 2013 #11

Why can't they set this up on line EC Apr 2013 #14

That would cost NY State money. Straw Man Apr 2013 #16

I believe that NICS... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2013 #18

Correct kudzu22 Apr 2013 #22

Maybe I missed something in the law's text, ManiacJoe Apr 2013 #24

"what part requires the FFL to take custody of the gun during the NICS check?" rdharma Apr 2013 #26

This is what the NY State Police FAQ says. Straw Man Apr 2013 #27

That explains it. Thanks! ManiacJoe Apr 2013 #28

No, it doesn't explain it............... rdharma Apr 2013 #39

You are 100% wrong. Straw Man Apr 2013 #40

I'm sure some guy with an FFL will figure out how to make money on this......... rdharma Apr 2013 #25

You have no idea what you're talking about. Straw Man Apr 2013 #29

Buwahahaaa! Then you're doing it wrong! rdharma Apr 2013 #31

or offer gejohnston Apr 2013 #33

Non-FFLs using online NICS and risk of identity theft. rdharma Apr 2013 #34

that is why I like gejohnston Apr 2013 #35

Me too. Straw Man Apr 2013 #42

You can fill out all the forms at the same time ... Straw Man Apr 2013 #43

Thats one reason I like the Texas CHL. No call needed!! oneshooter Apr 2013 #48

"I imagine your Colorado entrepreneurs were charging more than $10, right?" rdharma Apr 2013 #38

Wrong, as usual. Straw Man Apr 2013 #41

"Not legally, they can't." .......... Oh yes they can! rdharma Apr 2013 #44

Not legally. Straw Man Apr 2013 #45

That was my idea krispos42 Apr 2013 #49

Sort of like a notary public? Straw Man Apr 2013 #50

Yeah. krispos42 Apr 2013 #52