Gun Control & RKBA

burf

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36. Yep it does happen.

Mon Jan 30, 2012, 03:33 PM

Jan 2012

Jerks with a badge like Former Officer Harless are out there and they need to be fired just like he was. But, it shouldn't take as long as it did. If he is as he has claimed suffering from PTSD, what the heck was he doing being a credible source testifying at a murder trial after the incident?

It appears that the local government is unhinged in Canton. Shortly after the Harless incident, one of the Councilmen went on a local talk radio show and here it is:

http://www.ammoland.com/2011/07/27/canton-ohio-councilman-goes-on-anti-concealed-carry-rant-after-his-officers-caught-on-tape/

If the councilman reflects the attitude of the majority of the public servants of Canton, no wonder stuff like Harless' actions go on. Whoever hired or covered for Harless should be fired and those elected officials like the councilman should be not only not reelected, but run out of town on a rail.

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Should you have to tell a police officer you're carrying a gun? [View all] ellisonz Jan 2012 OP

Personally I prefer: Turbineguy Jan 2012 #1

Its the rational thing to do ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2012 #2

If you're required to. ileus Jan 2012 #3

"I've been road checked a dozen or so times. Checked by the dnr 3 or 4 times" Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #8

DUI / License check points ileus Jan 2012 #11

I'm not sure you have to tell a police officer anything tularetom Jan 2012 #4

What do you mean, "warn"? Callisto32 Jan 2012 #5

No. Callisto32 Jan 2012 #6

I don't know for sure but we were told in CCW class when the OHP runs your doc03 Jan 2012 #7

I would consider it a reasonable requirement for a CCWer when a firearm is present and petronius Jan 2012 #9

expect officers to be trained in ccw laws YllwFvr Jan 2012 #12

"I discourage gun carriers from informing." ellisonz Jan 2012 #25

Why? *Not* assuming the person they are speaking with may be armed is poor practice. friendly_iconoclast Jan 2012 #27

Ive informed several times YllwFvr Jan 2012 #30

When stoped Slimmm1 May 2012 #66

I don't think there should be an 'immediate' or 'timely' notification, no.. X_Digger Jan 2012 #10

^^^^this^^^^ Glassunion Jan 2012 #15

Just for the record... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2012 #42

Or the Stanford Experiment nt Glassunion Feb 2012 #58

You know what they say... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #59

and this is why... Fredjust Feb 2012 #64

Now HERE is a commonsense gun control proposal! NewMoonTherian May 2012 #71

You have a VERY generous opinion of the police. NewMoonTherian May 2012 #70

One more thing safeinOhio Jan 2012 #13

I agree completely.. pipoman Jan 2012 #14

I agree with you on this one. nt SteveW Jan 2012 #28

Doesn't make any real difference. GreenStormCloud Jan 2012 #16

No - the police already assume you're armed until they can verify otherwise. mvccd1000 Jan 2012 #17

This is already the law COLGATE4 Jan 2012 #18

By informing a LEO you have a permit and safeinOhio Jan 2012 #19

or fishing vest gejohnston Jan 2012 #20

Lots of police training films safeinOhio Jan 2012 #21

Not everywhere... mvccd1000 Jan 2012 #26

You know that doesn't happen right? AtheistCrusader Jan 2012 #32

Doesn't happen? safeinOhio Jan 2012 #34

This occurred in a state with ambiguity in the law AtheistCrusader Jan 2012 #35

Ambiguity in the law had nothing to do with Harless. liberal_biker Jan 2012 #38

Yep it does happen. burf Jan 2012 #36

Ex wife was a cop safeinOhio Jan 2012 #40

Here in Missouri ErikO Jan 2012 #43

Perhaps in Ohio ... spin May 2012 #86

It's not big deal, really. jeepnstein May 2012 #88

Only if you plan to shoot him with it. nt rrneck Jan 2012 #22

Should I have to? No. But if it is the law I will comply. aikoaiko Jan 2012 #23

NO YOU SHOULD NOT! Logical Jan 2012 #24

Only if asked. n/t DWC Jan 2012 #29

yes, I think this would be appropriate. IF asked then, don't lie. -- Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #60

In Washington, we don't unless the officer specifically asks us. AtheistCrusader Jan 2012 #31

Technically, we don't have to if the officer asks ... Kennah Feb 2012 #65

Here is a method of notifying from burf Jan 2012 #33

good advice Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #61

First time I've heard Massad speak. (have read plenty) Simo 1939_1940 Feb 2012 #62

He is also a hell of a shot. burf Feb 2012 #63

What I usually do ObamaFTW2012 Jan 2012 #37

Lucky you. ellisonz Jan 2012 #46

Depends on the state. liberal_biker Jan 2012 #47

Most of the cops I've met ObamaFTW2012 Feb 2012 #57

If you are transitioning from conversation to being searched... ManiacJoe Jan 2012 #48

I agree ObamaFTW2012 Feb 2012 #56

In SC? ObamaFTW2012 Feb 2012 #55

If I carried that would be my position, too. Union Scribe Jan 2012 #54

Why would a gun permit holder "warn" a police officer? TPaine7 Jan 2012 #39

Living in a state that requires me to interrupt an officer who's talking to me benEzra Jan 2012 #41

Seems smarter than being a wise-ass "I don't have to" libertarian sorts Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2012 #44

Wise answer. ellisonz Jan 2012 #45

Are you saying you now approve of concealed carry? nt Remmah2 Jan 2012 #49

I never said I disapproved. ellisonz Jan 2012 #50

Please expand on this.................. oneshooter Jan 2012 #51

I'll await an answer from Remmah. ellisonz Jan 2012 #52

nailing jello, again. Did not expect any better of you. oneshooter Jan 2012 #53

Isn't that information already available to the cop when he runs your license plate? Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #67

Depends on the state. PavePusher May 2012 #76

ok and let me just say that - as an honest, tax-paying citizen I have no issue with presenting Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #78

Sounds good to me... if... PavePusher May 2012 #84

more laws = more crimes. Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #85

Should you have to tell a police officer you're carrying a gun? Oneka May 2012 #68

In Texas we are required to notify officers only if we are carrying on our body. oneshooter May 2012 #69

Here in Meiko May 2012 #72

Outdated info? mvccd1000 May 2012 #73

The permit is still issued, for inter-state reciprocity purposes... PavePusher May 2012 #75

True, but... mvccd1000 May 2012 #77

If you choose to carry the CCW Meiko May 2012 #80

Thanks for the clarification. mvccd1000 May 2012 #81

It's on the back of the CCW Meiko May 2012 #82

Learn something new every day. :) mvccd1000 May 2012 #89

That's true Meiko May 2012 #79

We're required to notify in Oklahoma. NewMoonTherian May 2012 #74

There is no reason Meiko May 2012 #83

NO! He does not need to know. No more than I need to know. n-t Logical May 2012 #87

Maybe we should wear little yellow stars. nt Remmah2 May 2012 #90

Maybe we should... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #91

Do you think that is funny? ellisonz May 2012 #93

NO! discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #96

Shame on you. ellisonz May 2012 #92

While not condoning the post in question sarisataka May 2012 #95

Too bad you couldn't meet some of my ancestors from Warsaw. Remmah2 May 2012 #99

Mine were from Poznan sarisataka May 2012 #100

My grandparents were bold and devious. Remmah2 May 2012 #101

Mine are from Plock, Poland... ellisonz May 2012 #102

Self delete? Remmah2 May 2012 #103

Poor choice sarisataka May 2012 #94

Yet there is a poster here that wants CHL holders oneshooter May 2012 #97

Does saying someone has to wear sarisataka May 2012 #98

Here's an interesting video on how to handle a traffic stop if you are legally carrying ... spin May 2012 #104

One problem with that video... ellisonz May 2012 #105

Many of us legally carry a firearm on our person when we are driving ... spin May 2012 #106

I hope you had the safety on! ellisonz May 2012 #107

Revolvers don't require manual safeties gejohnston May 2012 #108

Again this shows the limits of his knowledge of firearms. oneshooter May 2012 #109